"That darn drop"

Monday, February 7, 2000 11:11 AM
I just got this poem from someone,

"No matter what the weather, we will all flock to that darn drop.
The gates open, the people rush, just taking a peer, at that darn drop.
The line length be long and the day(ith) be short, all the more it will still be all for, that darn drop."

Well, I think that explains it, eh? I think the feeling will be so weird being so high up. I think the perspective will be different too! Just the fact that we'll be looking down at frotieer trail will be kinda odd too.

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Tuesday, February 8, 2000 5:41 AM
anyone have a guess, as how many hours long the line will be for MF this summer?
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Tuesday, February 8, 2000 11:50 AM
Good question! My prediction will have to be.........at least an 2 1/2 hours. Of course this is non-peak time. I believe peak time will be.........3 1/2 to 4 hours. Of course this is speculation, but if you were at CP when Magnum opened, you might agree.
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Tuesday, February 8, 2000 12:08 PM
I have a feeling it will be around 4 hours by 11. Then in the afternoon it will wear down to around 3. I imagine that it will stay around 2 hours the rest of the season though.

Does anyone remember what the Magnum's waiting times were?

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Tuesday, February 8, 2000 12:55 PM

I think the wait time will completely depend on what day you are referring to going...the longest wait I ever had for any ride at any trip at CP was 2.5 hours-for MS one time and Mantis...
the long wait for those were because they only had 2 trains running for MS
and Mantis---
STACKED STACKED STACKED!!
I say we add a "how to strap yourself into Mantis' properly" thread to keep the trains from getting stacked thanks to the people who keep insisting on BENDING THEIR KNEES when they are told NOT to!!!
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Tuesday, February 8, 2000 1:08 PM
Four hours? Not a chance. Anyone who waits in line that long is a moron. (I should say how I really feel. :))

Seriously... a four hour line will have about 6,400 people in it. That's about one-fifth of the park's attendance on your average busy 30,000-guest day in July. That would reduce the wait time on other signature rides to about 30 minutes or less, and that doesn't include the thousands of people who are at shows, eating or walking the midways at any given moment!

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Jeff
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Tuesday, February 8, 2000 3:07 PM
Your right. Anyone who does wait 4 hours in line is a moron. But back in '89, the wait for Magnum was 3 hours at peak time. I remember this because I did not have a chance to ride it. This was in the afternoon of course. But now, CP has gotten alot more headlines in the past 10 years. There are alot more people now, and the lines will be even longer now. Who doesn't want to ride the biggest rollercoaster in the world at the world's greatest park? I know I do. I also remember talking to an employee when Meanstreak had just opened. The employee had told me that the line would get as long as 3 hours as well.
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Tuesday, February 8, 2000 5:50 PM
Attendance hasn't changed. By a few hundred thousand a year? Maybe, but on a daily level it has remained relatively the same. The most crowded days generally have between 30,000 and 35,000 people in the park, slightly more on holidays. The cool thing is that the total combined capacity of the adult coasters alone is 22,000 people per hour.

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Jeff
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Thursday, February 10, 2000 5:28 PM
I don,t think you are going to see everyone in line for this coaster. I have friends who love to ride coasters but they said they won't ride it. Why you ask? Because they say it is too high and they don't like the fact that with overbanked turns that there won't be any shoulder harnesses. I tried to explain centrifical(sp.?) force, but they said they will probably take a good long look at it before they decide to ride or not to ride.

Bottom line is height alone might scare some people into not riding it. Especially people who are not coaster "freaks" such as us.

Hmm..... "to ride or not to ride...that is the REAL question." haha!

Jeff
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Friday, February 11, 2000 10:34 AM
I have a feeling the wait will be long because of the power of the internet. More people know about Millennium Force and their are more thrill seekers out there. I think their has been a big boom in interest in the last couple years. When Magnum opened, we didn't see the big coaster folks of B&M etc...

My predictions: 3.5 in the morning growing to 4 hours peek.

Don't be supprized if you have to wait over 2 hours this whole season, because people arn't going to miss Millennium Force; they will miss one of the other coasters, guarentied. It also depends greatly on the weather.

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http://www.flightcommunity.com *** This post was edited by Mike Schulte on 2/11/00. ***
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Friday, February 11, 2000 3:57 PM
I just thought of something. Right when you start to drop down the hill. It is gonna feel like sky-diving! Think about, it would be like going up on Power Tower and they tilt you over 80o. Sit in the front seat, put your arms out, and you are sky-diving. I CAN'T WAIT! :) oh, and i think the lines will probably get up to three hours, but no more than that.

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Friday, February 11, 2000 4:54 PM
There just can't be a four hour line, based on the math. It's all about the math.

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Jeff
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Saturday, February 12, 2000 8:31 AM
If you do the math, one would wonder where CP would get all the revenue to build such huge attractions. It's not from charities or donations. It's from the ever-growing popularity of the park. I believe attendance has changed dramatically over the years. Tickets have gone up a few dollars, but it is only due to inflation. The money comes from the crowds who will produce huge lines. It won't always be 4 hours, but around july and august, it will peak up to 4 hours. I won't wait 4 hours, but I will wait 1 hour on a slow day during may or june.
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Saturday, February 12, 2000 9:26 AM
I don't think you understand what I'm getting at here... I know as a matter of fact that attendance has remained relatively steady around 3.5 million per year for the last six to ten years. That's what their annual reports say some years (they don't always report it) as well as Amusement Business and contacts I have that are People Who Know(TM). Attendance was actually down in '99.

With regards to revenue, check the recent news release on '99 earnings:
http://www.cedarfair.com/News/story.cfm?id=66

They can build a $25 million coaster because that's what they budgeted for. It's not a mystery. If you're looking for new sources of revenue, consider the new hotel rooms in the last six years. Ticket prices have increased at a rate higher than inflation (which has been around 2% for the last few years).

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Jeff
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Saturday, February 12, 2000 11:55 AM
4 Hour Lines....increased attendance I think is what people are thinking. I would hate to see a 4 hour line, but it would show that coaster interest is there. This is the biggest coaster in the world to date and I don't think the line will be short. I say it will be 3.5 and then peek to around 4 hours because people are going to be a little ocward with the seating and operations. I don't think, on the otherhand, that the lines will stay around 4 hours for very long. Maybe the first 2-3 days. Otherwise, 1.5-2.5 hours my friends. ;)

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Sunday, February 13, 2000 9:26 AM
Actually, even on a relatively fast day, I can picture the wait for front-car seats as being tremendous, especially compared to the other seats, simply because everyone wants to ride in the front at least once. On a "traditional" coaster, like MF, or AC (Apollo's Chariot) over at BG Williamsburg, it doesn't really matter all that much, but on an inverted coaster, like Alpengeist, you literally can't see forward if you're not in the front car.

I sincerely hope that MF will have a "filler line" like AC does, wherein you get in that line, and move quicker than everyone else, but you have no control over where you sit, as the ride attendants tell you where to go. For people who don't care what car they sit in, that's a really good way to cut down on the waiting time, and the first time I rode AC, I got lucky and got put in the second car.

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All that is gold does not glitter, not all who wander are lost...

--The Lord of the Rings
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Sunday, February 13, 2000 10:16 AM
Is there going to be a little sign on top of the lift hill?
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Sunday, February 13, 2000 5:20 PM
I can see the sign now:

"Abandon all hope, all ye who...oops, too late. BYE!" whoosh

:)


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Coaster count: a meager 33, but climbing this summer!
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Sunday, February 13, 2000 6:23 PM
well Jeff, I can't argue with facts. Well done. I guess the only way we will know how long of a wait for MF will be, is to go to CP and find out.
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Sunday, February 13, 2000 6:25 PM
I do find it humorous that what started this post was a poem from Mike. It turned into an all out battle for how long the wait for MF would be. Way to start a post, Mike.
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