Tea Parties, Glenn Beck protest Muslim Family Day at Six Flags Great America

Is "tea geek" better? :)

Definitely less offensive :)

Aamilj said:
As for rollercoasters, doesn't everybody love coasters?

Not roller coaster enthusiasts.

Kick The Sky said:
And I could do without you insulting me by calling me a teabagger in all your posts...

I did no such thing. Who you choose to associate with is your own thing.

Kick The Sky said:
Actually, the Republicans do have a good economic plan, http://www.roadmap.republicans.budget.house.gov/ but it just has not been publicized by the main stream media because they are afraid of it.

This is such a lame assertion in this day in age, that people continue to suggest some "liberal media" conspiracy, especially in an age where Fox "News" has more combined viewers on cable than ALL of the other cable news channels combined. Furthermore, the Internet is so democratizing that you can find virtually anything you want as far as "media" goes. Implying that there is an all-powerful entity that has ultimate influence is not something you can substantiate.

As for that Republican "road map," the only thing that's substantially different from what the Democrats are pushing through Congress these days is preference toward different programs. It criticizes a lot of this policy, uses terms like "some studies suggest" and gets to few actionable points that solve problems. If you can get through the first half, which is entirely about why things suck, you finally get to actual policy.

And the actual policy, like I said, is doing the same things Democrats do only moving the numbers around. Instead of subsidizing health insurance, give a tax credit. Simplify income tax, in a way that reduces tax for everyone, but there's no explanation about how you will reduce the spending the government is already doing. Vague budgeting guidelines mean nothing when you have hundreds of Congress critters all fighting for inclusion of their projects.

If that's a plan, it's incomplete.

Jeff said:

I did no such thing. Who you choose to associate with is your own thing.

Yeah, actually you did. That term is VERY offensive in a way to describe a group that I belong to. It's no better than using the n-word with another group of people. Then again, you probably don't care as you pretend you are never wrong.

But to me, when someone says "I don't think you should be allowed to do this",

Again, Beck never said this!! He said it was in "poor taste." It isn't Beck's fault you continue to try putting words in his mouth.

You've made it very clear you don't like what Beck says. Can I assume from your own words that this means you would like to take his right to speak away??

If the answer is yes, fine--you want to ban his speech. If the answer is no, than can you not see that Beck can also find something he doesn't like and not want to ban it?

I'd also like to see the regulation that bans thongs for fat girls, which is how you initially set it up!

..And the CoasterBuzz community falls apart at the seams.

I'm going to go microwave myself a bag of popcorn. :)

..And what the hell is that goofball Aamilj doing here? This is a roller coaster enthusiast community. A lot of us have been posting for a decades now, about coasters, and when something else pops up, like this, we converse about it with each other. I don't feel he should be welcome to troll the site, but that's up to Jeff.

I'm still staying out of it. I've listened to beck a few times before, and he seemed passionate about his stance. I agree with some of his ideas. I also disagree with some of his ideas. Seriously, it's all just not that important to me.

I can watch Fox News sometimes, but I like to balance my news sources by getting different perspectives. I don't get my news from just the one source that I agree with, like a lot of people. That's a lot less challenging. I would argue that anyone who gets their news from the one source that they agree with is getting "spoon-fed".

I hate politics.

^Wow, talk about putting words in peoples mouths, LOL. You're really reaching.

I don't know enough about what Beck says to care. In this instance, I disagree. You really have taken this personally, which is kinda spooky.

And I never ever said there were laws against fat girls specifically wearing thongs. I said plenty of beaches have taken her (and anyone else's) right to wear a thong away. You're just trying to argue for arguing and you never comment on the good points I make, you just keep spewing that I don't know what Glenn Beck means. Yes, I do, and it's sad (and obvious) that you either don't, or just want to argue.

I never said he shouldn't be allowed to speak, but Beck has made it clear that Muslims shouldn't have their event on 9/12 because it offends him. If you can't understand that, then I'd really hate to live in your world.

By the way, if you type in 'Poor Taste' in Google, one of the first things that pops up as a meaning is "Not suitable, unseemly, offensive", so you dispute that Beck finding it Not suitable, unseemly, and offensive means that he doesn't think it should be allowed?

Not Suitable: Not Appropriate
Unseemly: not suitable for time or place
Offensive: causing resentful displeasure; highly irritating, angering, or annoying

Yep, sounds like he wants to let them have it to me.

And for the record, I do think that generalizing about the Tea Party is no different than Generalizing about Muslims. Regardless of them being a movement, a party, a group of people, to say that they're all like the fringe loud cases is no different than saying that Extremist Muslims represent the entire community.

Geese Kause, a troll? I come on here and offer perspective as a guy with experience with ICNA and I am a troll? 18 pages of discussion and you believe that I should be banned, for what? Check back and I'm guessing I am the last person to talk about rollercoasters. Spent 80% of the last post doing so.

Is that how things are done here? You disagree with an opinion then call for a banning... Irony, considering Beck supposedly calling for a banning of a Muslim day started this thing.

The more I think about it, the more I support the event. I am guessing a day at Six Flags is torture enough, assuming they still treat their customers they way they have when I have gone.

Troll: a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off -topic messages in an online community.

We were having a discussion about certain people's thoughts on not wanting Muslims to have a day at a theme park. Sure, it's leaning towards off topic, but you did come here just to post off topic messages...

The event, co-sponsored with the Islamic Circle of North America (ICNA)

So begins sentence two of the story. Ironically mentioned before Glen Beck. It would be a reach to call such an "off-topic" part of the story. And I was not the first to talk about the ICNA. That discussion was going on long before I heard about this site.

And since I am new, and I decided to add to the ICNA discussion that you were already having...I'm a troll?

When did you or anybody else get to cherrypick a linked story and tell everybody else what the story is about? Seems to me there are 3 participants. Six Flags, ICNA, and Glen Beck. I've given my opinion on the first two.

And besides, I have a lot to offer in amusement discussion if anybody needs Disney information. I go all the time. What are the qualifications to call one an enthusiast? I'm guessing I spend as much money on and attend parks more than 90% of the population.

Is there a test? Or a certain level of ride experience before you are allowed an opinion?

Actually, you basically came in to extol the evils of the ICNA. That this particular thread discusses that in the context of an amusement park is incidental.

I didn't say you should be banned, btw, that was LK. I don't care, because you'll likely stay till this thread finally really dies out (assuming people don't wait till a week to bring it up again), and we prolly won't see you much after that. Cause if you wanted to be part of a group of theme park geeks, you probably would have been here before now. Or at least participating in other threads.

If it appeases, I just participated in the Donald Duck thread. I just hope that that thread was supposed to be about Donald Duck. I'd hate to be a troll.

It isn't about appeasing anyone. Now you're just posing.

:)

I usually play peacemaker when stuff turns South....but I stopped reading this thread about a week ago and didn't see it spiralling downhill.

Oh, and Goofy is the "gropey" one...

Signed, the other Moosh...aka, "the token straight(-ish) guy"... :)

I'm still not 100% sure you're straight, and I've been to 2 parks with you and Jill, so...

(if we keep it going gator, maybe we can get this thread back up like Viagra)

I'm actually the male love-child of Kathy Griffin and Lisa Lampanelli.

Can I trademark the term "Homophiliac"? :)

No. No no no. You are NOT any relation to Kathy Griffin, or I'd have to shoot you. Eww...

See? Now this thread too a terrible nose dive. We were all fine till you brought up Kathy Griffin. And yes, I would like to take her rights away. She should no longer have the right to pretend she is either funny or relevant.

Kick The Sky said:
Yeah, actually you did. That term is VERY offensive in a way to describe a group that I belong to.

Like I said, I didn't call you anything. But since you're going in that direction, in which states do you vote as a Tea Party member? Where do they hold their annual convention? Do they sit in their own sections in Congress? How do you join the Tea Party? (There's a gay joke, a Johnny Depp reference or Boston reference in there somewhere... +1 to the first person who makes it.)

And where are your responses to my points about the media and the GOP? We can make this another pointless ad hominem discussion all day, but then I'd be no better than the thing I'm being critical of in the first place.

How do you join the Tea Party?

It only takes one sip (with a lifted pinky finger, of course) :)

Tek: What words did I put in your mouth?

If I think a woman who is 500 lbs wearing a thong in public is in poor taste, that means I don't think she should do it. Would I like to take that right away from her? Sure. And plenty of beaches have, but that's another story.

Here you've given an example of something you don't like, and therefore want banned! You then say Beck is the same way.

I turn this back on you:

You've made it very clear you don't like what Beck says. Can I assume from your own words that this means you would like to take his right to speak away??

And you won't answer this question, since it puts you in a bind either way. Yet this is exactly what you claim Beck is doing--doesn't like, so is in favor of ban.

As to your claim that "never ever said there were laws against fat girls specifically wearing thongs" please see your quote above. It doesn't say thongs were outlawed, period. It says the right was taken away for the prev. mentioned group--fat girls. (Yes, I knew the ban was for everyone, but your statement does not indicate that.) Words mean things, and if you leave out words then they mean DIFFERENT things!

I'm not taking this personally--sorry if you think that. I'm merely trying to get you to admit that "I find that in poor taste" does not mean "I want that banned." It clearly doesn't!

As far as me not understanding Beck, I've listened to him for prob. 8 years now. I think I understand him pretty well!

Also: "just wants to argue," pot/kettle/black.