Tallest loop/cobra roll

Saturday, June 19, 2010 1:39 PM
Mamoosh's avatar

^IIRC, using that accepted definition Viper's loop is 40 feet tall (but 144 feet high).

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Saturday, June 19, 2010 10:38 PM

Moosh you're right... I think I read somewhere that all of Arrow's loops/corkscrews/boomerangs etc were always the same size, they just changed elevation to control the speed the train went through them. So SFMM Viper would have the "HIGHEST" loop. If it had the tallest loop (meaning largest from top to bottom) then it would be a tie with every other Arrow loop out there including Darien Lake's Viper, Marine Land's Dragon Mountain, and even Cedar Point's Corkscrew.

PS- I know Tennessee Tornado & X are totally different designs by Arrow & don't fit in this rule...

But yeah, it's all in the wording for these records. Marine Land is the king of this. They claim to have the :"HIGHEST" drop ride in Sky Screamer because you have to climb a manmade mountain to get to it. They claim to have the "LARGEST" steel coaster in Dragon Mountain because it covers the most acreage. Tricky tricky tricky!!


But then again, what do I know?

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Saturday, June 19, 2010 11:34 PM
DantheCoasterman's avatar

Plus, technically, neither X(2) nor Tennessee Tornado has a vertical loop.


-Daniel

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Saturday, June 19, 2010 11:46 PM
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Sorry, I thought this did count as a vertical loop

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Sunday, June 20, 2010 12:14 AM
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It's actually a "spiral loop." ;)


-Daniel

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Sunday, June 20, 2010 1:43 AM
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Yeah Daniel, I read that, but since I've never been there personally, I don't quite get it. Pictures don't seem to capture what is meant by "spiral loop." Explain please?


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Sunday, June 20, 2010 1:50 AM

Typically on a vertical loop, the tracks leading into and out of the loop are only shifted enough horizontally to maintain clearance. On Tennessee Tornado, the spiral loop shifts horizontally continuously through the loop, so it comes out shifted some distance to one side. Basically take a vertical loop and stretch it across its transverse axis. In this case it is also unique because the base element is a very large vertical loop.

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Sunday, June 20, 2010 2:05 AM
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Ah, you know what...I was wrong with my first statement, anyway. While the "showcased" inversion on Tennessee Tornado is its spiral loop (which Dave just described...thanks Dave!), the ride also features a vertical loop about midway through its course. This always slips my mind, however, because Dollywood advertises the loop as part of an "iron butterfly," which is actually just a vertical loop followed by a standard sidewinder.

You can see the element here:
http://rcdb.com/534.htm?p=3066


-Daniel

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Sunday, June 20, 2010 2:59 AM
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Tennessee Tornado's loop is unlike anything I have ever experienced. It has a "shift" at the entrance and exit of the inversion.

I, like others here, would measure a vertical loop from the lowest point that both the entrance track and exit track share, to the highest point of the loop.


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Sunday, June 20, 2010 9:44 AM
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Is that a big loop or are you just happy to see me?

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Sunday, June 20, 2010 10:21 AM
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Moosh, I couldn't help but notice your loop comes out shifted some distance to one side.

;)

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Sunday, June 20, 2010 12:31 PM

That's just Moosh for ya. He's cut from a different clothoid.


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Sunday, June 20, 2010 2:20 PM
LostKause's avatar

The loop my be huge, but it's still difficult to see the entire thing because of all the trees and bushes around it. ;)


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Sunday, June 20, 2010 4:01 PM
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Huge is relative and depends on how one measures. And one could pull a Cedar Fair and just cut all the bushes down.


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Sunday, June 20, 2010 7:24 PM
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Mmmm...Tennessee Tornado...

There are only 2 things wrong with that ride:

1) It uses the old arrow trains
2) It isn't long enough


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Sunday, June 20, 2010 9:03 PM

3. They dont let you reride the ride on less crowded days and it has a Cedar Pointesque distance between the exit and entrance.

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Sunday, June 20, 2010 10:05 PM
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4. The entrance is difficult to find, and the exit too.

About #2, if it had at least one more loop and a helix, it would probably be somewhere in my top five.


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Sunday, June 20, 2010 10:25 PM
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Tekwardo said:

2) It isn't long enough

That's what she said! ;)

LostKause said:
4. The entrance is difficult to find, and the exit too.

I didn't think you'd have trouble finding the exit to anything! lol :)

Last edited by Mamoosh, Sunday, June 20, 2010 10:26 PM
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Monday, June 21, 2010 5:49 PM
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HAHA. I never know what to expect from you, Moosh. :)


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Monday, June 21, 2010 5:57 PM
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I'm predictably unpredictable ;)

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