Tallest loop/cobra roll

^IIRC, using that accepted definition Viper's loop is 40 feet tall (but 144 feet high).

Moosh you're right... I think I read somewhere that all of Arrow's loops/corkscrews/boomerangs etc were always the same size, they just changed elevation to control the speed the train went through them. So SFMM Viper would have the "HIGHEST" loop. If it had the tallest loop (meaning largest from top to bottom) then it would be a tie with every other Arrow loop out there including Darien Lake's Viper, Marine Land's Dragon Mountain, and even Cedar Point's Corkscrew.

PS- I know Tennessee Tornado & X are totally different designs by Arrow & don't fit in this rule...

But yeah, it's all in the wording for these records. Marine Land is the king of this. They claim to have the :"HIGHEST" drop ride in Sky Screamer because you have to climb a manmade mountain to get to it. They claim to have the "LARGEST" steel coaster in Dragon Mountain because it covers the most acreage. Tricky tricky tricky!!

Plus, technically, neither X(2) nor Tennessee Tornado has a vertical loop.

Sorry, I thought this did count as a vertical loop

Tennessee Tornado

It's actually a "spiral loop." ;)

Yeah Daniel, I read that, but since I've never been there personally, I don't quite get it. Pictures don't seem to capture what is meant by "spiral loop." Explain please?

Typically on a vertical loop, the tracks leading into and out of the loop are only shifted enough horizontally to maintain clearance. On Tennessee Tornado, the spiral loop shifts horizontally continuously through the loop, so it comes out shifted some distance to one side. Basically take a vertical loop and stretch it across its transverse axis. In this case it is also unique because the base element is a very large vertical loop.

--Dave Althoff, Jr.

Ah, you know what...I was wrong with my first statement, anyway. While the "showcased" inversion on Tennessee Tornado is its spiral loop (which Dave just described...thanks Dave!), the ride also features a vertical loop about midway through its course. This always slips my mind, however, because Dollywood advertises the loop as part of an "iron butterfly," which is actually just a vertical loop followed by a standard sidewinder.

You can see the element here:
http://rcdb.com/534.htm?p=3066

Tennessee Tornado's loop is unlike anything I have ever experienced. It has a "shift" at the entrance and exit of the inversion.

I, like others here, would measure a vertical loop from the lowest point that both the entrance track and exit track share, to the highest point of the loop.

Is that a big loop or are you just happy to see me?

Moosh, I couldn't help but notice your loop comes out shifted some distance to one side.

;)

That's just Moosh for ya. He's cut from a different clothoid.

The loop my be huge, but it's still difficult to see the entire thing because of all the trees and bushes around it. ;)

Huge is relative and depends on how one measures. And one could pull a Cedar Fair and just cut all the bushes down.

Mmmm...Tennessee Tornado...

There are only 2 things wrong with that ride:

1) It uses the old arrow trains
2) It isn't long enough

3. They dont let you reride the ride on less crowded days and it has a Cedar Pointesque distance between the exit and entrance.

4. The entrance is difficult to find, and the exit too.

About #2, if it had at least one more loop and a helix, it would probably be somewhere in my top five.

Tekwardo said:

2) It isn't long enough

That's what she said! ;)

LostKause said:
4. The entrance is difficult to find, and the exit too.

I didn't think you'd have trouble finding the exit to anything! lol :)

HAHA. I never know what to expect from you, Moosh. :)

I'm predictably unpredictable ;)