Tallest loop/cobra roll

Thursday, June 17, 2010 10:09 AM

Now there has been some debate on this one. I do know volcano blast coaster has the tallest inversion at 155 ft but which coaster has the tallest vertical loop and cobra roll. My guess is loop-dominator and cobra roll-incredible hulk coaster? Just asking because this week I will down in Orlando at universal visiting the parks.

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Thursday, June 17, 2010 10:32 AM

Yeah, PKD...or KD rather, has the tallest inversion on a roller coaster, the tallest inversion on an invert, and the tallest vertical loop.

Tallest cobra...hmmm...if I were to venture a guess...either Incredible Hulk or Jubilee Odysee.

Good luck at Universal. I'll be there as well and I am sure its going to be bananas!

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Thursday, June 17, 2010 11:10 AM

There was always debate about Dominator's loop and Superman Krypton. Bob Mampe of B&M told me Krypton's loop was the largest, and if you look at the pictures and count the track ribs, there are more on Krypton. Not to mention that Krypton's drop is 20 feet more than Dominator's--it makes sense that the loop would be larger.

As to other inversions, Griffon probably has the tallest Immelman.

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Thursday, June 17, 2010 12:22 PM

I wouldn't count out Alpengeist's Cobra Roll either. Im pretty sure it was the tallest when it was built, my money is on either that or the Hulk being the largest.

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Thursday, June 17, 2010 1:25 PM

Sky Wheel for tallest, uh.. inversion that... uh...?

http://www.rcdb.com/2773.htm?p=13336

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Thursday, June 17, 2010 1:47 PM

The Maurer X-Coaster Sky Wheels top out at 151'7". That's still a little less than Volcano, is it not? Of course the big question is where are they measuring from--the rail, or some other part of the structure?

Last edited by Jeffrey Seifert, Thursday, June 17, 2010 1:51 PM
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Thursday, June 17, 2010 3:10 PM

If I remember correctly, Alpengeist Cobra tops out at around 97 feet, Hulk at 106. I never saw any stats on Jubilee Odyssey inversions save from the loop, but it looks to be around the same height, which is 124 feet tall for the loop.

One inversion that is intriguing me is the Cobra Roll on the defunt Chiller at Six Flags Great Adventure. I am looking for infos on it.

Edit: Got it! Just read the original press release for the ride and Robin's Cobra Roll towers at 105 feet tall. Batman's Top Hat was 139 feet tall.

Last edited by Absimilliard, Thursday, June 17, 2010 3:13 PM
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Thursday, June 17, 2010 4:55 PM

Yep total chaos. I am curious to see how it will effect Disney's attendance during peak season. It will be good for Universal to bounce back since it has not been doing so hot financially.

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Thursday, June 17, 2010 5:32 PM

Viper at Six Flags Magic Mountain has the tallest vertical loop at 144-feet.

Largest loop (in diamater) is Dominator at Kings Dominion.

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Thursday, June 17, 2010 5:40 PM

Viper has the highest loop. Not the tallest.

(it's the specific wording that makes all these records so much fun :) )

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Thursday, June 17, 2010 5:44 PM

^ Nope, it's the tallest. "Tallest" being measured from the loop's entry at its lowest level to the very top of it. Viper's is 144-feet tall.

How high something is can be achieved simply by elevation. It's totally different from whether it's the tallest. Like sticking Cedar Point's Corkscrew on the roof of a skyscraper and saying it's the highest loop in the world. It definitely would be the highest. But it wouldn't be the tallest. :)

Last edited by kRaXLeRidAh, Thursday, June 17, 2010 5:45 PM
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Thursday, June 17, 2010 5:55 PM

kRaXLeRidAh said:

How high something is can be achieved simply by elevation. It's totally different from whether it's the tallest. Like sticking Cedar Point's Corkscrew on the roof of a skyscraper and saying it's the highest loop in the world. It definitely would be the highest. But it wouldn't be the tallest. :)

Yeah, that was exactly what I was alluding to.

Nope, it's the tallest. "Tallest" being measured from the loop's entry at its lowest level to the very top of it. Viper's is 144-feet tall.

I'd argue that the 'loop' in this sense refers to the diameter of the inversion.

Last edited by Lord Gonchar, Thursday, June 17, 2010 5:57 PM
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Thursday, June 17, 2010 6:14 PM

I think you pretty much have to, otherwise any inverting coaster in Denver would pretty much take the crown for all of them..

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Friday, June 18, 2010 9:30 AM

So it seems in terms of loop viper vs superman krypton. I thought superman pegged out around 145 feet. Thats a good point to argue. Do you measure the diamter or do you measure right from the bottom up from the track. I am wondering if there is a manual somewhere that specifically tells you how to measure ride elements or does it vary company to company.

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Friday, June 18, 2010 12:45 PM

But technically, loops don't have diameters anymore. So would you measure from the top of the inversion to the ground directly below, or to the bottom of the track leading into or out of the inversion?

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Friday, June 18, 2010 12:49 PM

I'd think the common measurement for a vertical loop would be from the apex of the loop to the point where the entry and exit tracks cross.

Which would make Viper's loop quite a bit smaller.

--Dave Althoff, Jr.

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Friday, June 18, 2010 1:35 PM

RatherGoodBear said:
But technically, loops don't have diameters anymore. So would you measure from the top of the inversion to the ground directly below, or to the bottom of the track leading into or out of the inversion?

Average diameter? Or the integral of the curve function representing the track's vertical angle from start to end. hmmm...

Stupid calculus; how you've corrupted me

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Friday, June 18, 2010 8:54 PM

Ok we need an engineer or a math professor for this one. I would think you measure track to track. From the bottom of the track to the top of the track but thats just my guess. I wasn't good in math so lol. They def should bring this up on the podcast next week lol.

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Saturday, June 19, 2010 12:24 AM

I measure from the left side of the concrete footer for the third highest support of the lift hill to the 4-year-old Liebowitz kid's right elbow in car 17 of the skyride.

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Saturday, June 19, 2010 1:21 AM

RideMan said:
I'd think the common measurement for a vertical loop would be from the apex of the loop to the point where the entry and exit tracks cross.

That's how I think of it.

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