Suspended Loopers?

Saturday, February 5, 2000 6:20 AM
Is there ever going to be a day when we get these things to go inverted? I think they are fantastic coasters, but they need some more elements besides the twisted-swinging track layouts. I would love to see one go inverted.

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Saturday, February 5, 2000 6:38 AM
That would awsome! I would love to see one with a really long in-line twist. It will probably happen some day. But i doubt it will happen withinn the next 5 years, or maybe they will do it next year. I dunno, it would just be really cool!

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Bryan, AKA CP-god
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Saturday, February 5, 2000 9:41 AM
It won't work! They will go flying off the track no matter how hard the designers work. There is no way that they can be free to swing and be able to do a loop with the same suspension system.

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Saturday, February 5, 2000 11:44 AM
Actually, I can think of a way, but it's probably still an engineering nightmare.

Ever notice how in the stations of suspended coasters (at least Iron Dragon at Cedar Point, the only suspended I've ever really LOOKED at), there's a pair of guide rails to keep the cars from swinging while the train is in the station, and under the cars is a small knob (for lack of a better word, I've never gotten a GOOD look at it) that fits in this guide track.

Well, what if approaching the loop the train went into a set of these guide rails that follow along the loop -- the train wouldn't be able to swing while in the loop...


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Saturday, February 5, 2000 2:05 PM
Hey, thats a pretty good idea!

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Bryan, AKA CP-god
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Saturday, February 5, 2000 7:04 PM
Actually, the original design of an Arrow suspended included a corkscrew. I've seen video of a working scale model. Thank god they didn't build a full size version. Imagine your run of the mill Arrow corkscrew element taken extremely fast in order to keep the suspended trains from swinging over due to gravity. Ouch!

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Scott W. Short
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Saturday, February 5, 2000 7:09 PM
I would tend to think that standard inverted B&M's (or dare I say Vekoma SLC's) already do this well, albeit with your feet dangling.

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Saturday, February 5, 2000 8:39 PM

Well if they really wanted to couldn'tthey put floors on cars like those on B&M inverts or does that create too much weight. I peronally like Iron Dragon anyway. Very peaceful and relaxing for a break.
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Matt Bly
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Sunday, February 6, 2000 3:47 AM
I could possibly see somthing like an in line twist on a suspended followed by a few mild turns to stop the sway of the cars. I wonder if they could put some sort of sensors on the track to lock up the swinging while in an inversion. They lock the cars on the Exterminator to stop them from spinning why not lock the suspended trains in a fixed position. If they do it on a lifthill they align at the bottom and then could negotiate the inversions. *** This post was edited by coasterpunk on 2/8/00. ***
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Saturday, February 12, 2000 2:43 PM
Well, I don't want to see a loop until they perfect suspendeds. Cough cough, Iron Dragon jumping tracks into woods...ahem ahem ;)

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Saturday, November 11, 2000 8:12 AM
there could probably be an almost inverted element like mf's,I think that would be cool!
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Saturday, November 11, 2000 11:18 AM
And almsot inverted element on a suspended is known as a turn...
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Saturday, November 11, 2000 2:42 PM
I meant a very high exteremely fast banked turn-now I think that would make it go into and iverted position-notice that on a suspended coaster that they dont sway into an inverted position on turns

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what's life if you never get to the point, CEDAR POINT!!! *** This post was edited by Cedar Pointer on 11/11/2000. ***
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Saturday, November 11, 2000 2:49 PM
They can already. It doesn't happen, but they can bank 90 and if the track is banked 90 they can.
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Saturday, November 11, 2000 3:57 PM
If you notice, when B&M & Vekoma started making inverts, Arrow stopped making suspendeds.

Personally, I don't see it happen, but I don't see any more suspendeds happening (at least the current style) either.
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Saturday, November 11, 2000 4:17 PM
Shivering -- I admit I am a little different, but the first time I saw that video (and every time since) I always wish they had built the full size version. It looks like pretty intense fun.
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Sunday, November 12, 2000 11:35 AM
Do any of you know if this video can be found on the internet? I would love to see this. Thanks I really dont see them ever makeing another suspended coaster.
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Sunday, November 12, 2000 2:04 PM
I've read that originally they had toyed with that idea of a mechanical pushing device to make the suspended coaster go into loop. How would that work? Something grabbing at the trains or something built onto what GregLeg's speaking of. *** This post was edited by p_c_r on 11/12/2000. ***
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Sunday, November 12, 2000 2:16 PM
Okay okay, people are talking about locking the cars so they don't swing on loops and what not. Think about riding Chaos at Cedar Point. When you get down to the ground, the cars lock and what a bang that is. Now First, the idea of a guide rail. Because the cars will probably be swinging when they enter, making the cars bang on the guide rails. I don't think I want to be on the coaster when that happens. That will bang the cars from side to side. It will hurt. As for just locking the cars from a signal or something, same banging. I don't think its a good Idea to have any looks or inversion on swinging suspendeds

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Sunday, November 12, 2000 4:17 PM
To clarify, a suspended coaster would not derail if it attempted an inversion. The steel would get very nastily warped after a while and the suspension system would ware down to nothing in no time.

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