Suspended Coasters With Inversions

Friday, August 16, 2002 6:29 AM
Why don't any suspended coasters have inversions? Does it have something to do with the trains? I think that a suspended coaster with an inversion would be awesome.
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Friday, August 16, 2002 6:31 AM
Has something to do with the movement of the cars. It would be impossible to keep the cars on the trains stable before, during, or after an inversion.
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Friday, August 16, 2002 6:39 AM

Idea: What if we put an "X Rail" on the track of all suspended coasters. That way all suspended coasters could lock into place from a swinging to a set position? That way there could be inversions on suspended coasters!

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Friday, August 16, 2002 6:39 AM
I think that there was originaly supposed to be an inversion on them, a corkscrew I think. But they concluded that the stress would be too much on the cars.

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Friday, August 16, 2002 6:40 AM
The cars are designed to swing, not pull maneuvers. Just the way things are designed.

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Friday, August 16, 2002 6:46 AM

I believe Arrow tested one with a corkscrew and the car broke off of the stick thing.

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Friday, August 16, 2002 7:10 AM

Sorry for saying this, old topic. Anyway, the conclusion was; why bother when an Inverted can do more?

IMO, that would be fun. Can you imgaine if it was Arrow, not B&M who invented the Inverted?

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Friday, August 16, 2002 8:19 AM
I think that one with a barrel roll would be fun. And not the Intamin ones. A barrel roll would be perfect for Top Gun at KI. I doubt we'll ever see a nice big B&M inverted though...:(

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Friday, August 16, 2002 9:24 AM

S00perGIR said:

I believe Arrow tested one with a corkscrew and the car broke off of the stick thing.

No. The inversion never made it past the scale model.

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Friday, August 16, 2002 10:43 AM
arrow tried to do inversions but the speed that would have been needed to complete the inversion without the car falling to the side was too great. The impossibility of an inversion killed the ride.
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Friday, August 16, 2002 10:55 AM
Um...aren't all Vekoma SLC's these? After all, SLC does stand for Suspended Looping Coaster. And they do have shocks on each car just like Arrow Suspendeds.

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Friday, August 16, 2002 10:56 AM
He means suspended coasters . Arrow suspendeds, that swing back and forth. Anyway next time do a search because this has been discssed many times before.
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Friday, August 16, 2002 11:36 AM

S00perGIR said:

I believe Arrow tested one with a corkscrew and the car broke off of the stick thing.



I'm assuming that's not exactly the technical explanation ;)

Arrow Engineer: "Well, we just tested the prototype and the car broke off the stick thing"

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Friday, August 16, 2002 11:40 AM
That's funny.
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Friday, August 16, 2002 11:41 AM

Arrow Engineer (addition): We plan to re-use the stick thing on a future design called a 4th dimension, maybe it won't break there ...

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Friday, August 16, 2002 12:04 PM

MForceXtreme said:

Idea: What if we put an "X Rail" on the track of all suspended coasters. That way all suspended coasters could lock into place from a swinging to a set position? That way there could be inversions on suspended coasters!

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Isn't this just like the 4d concept from that Japanese company, where the seats rotate forward/backward but keep the rider upright, regardless of what the coaster does?

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Friday, August 16, 2002 6:05 PM
Isn't Hangman at Wild Adventures, Georgia a suspended looper?
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Friday, August 16, 2002 6:08 PM

the thrill:,

Hangman is a Vekoma Inverted SLC.

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Friday, August 16, 2002 6:35 PM

Some of you people don't have a clue. SLC's are not what this topic is about. Vecoma calls there inverted coasters "Suspended Looping Coasters" or "SLC" for short. They do not swing from side to side.

Arrow makes a style of ride called the "Suspended Coaster". It Swings from side to side and preforms NO inversions. Examples of this kind of ride are Big Bad Wolf at BGWand Top Gun at PKI. These coasters are very rare because not many have been made.

Check out rcdb.com for more info on the differences between these two kinds of coasters. This topic has NOTHING to do with SLCs. I'm really not trying to sound mean here; just informative:)

Back on topic- Like some others, I think that suspendeds couldn't have an inversion because of the nesessary speed to navigate a flip and the design of the ride vehicles. It seems to me that too much strain would be put on the RVs and the riders durring an inversion.

I believe it was '93. The first time I saw Batman-The Ride at SFGAdv, I thought I was hallucinating. It blew my mind. I knew that suspended coasters could not do inversions and yet there was a new ride in front of my face that did just that. I later learned that those kind of coasters were called "inverted"even though i had been calling them looping suspended coasters.

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Friday, August 16, 2002 6:42 PM
I certainly do have a clue, dexter. Suspended coasters and inverted coasters are different things. Example, B&M inverts are fixed on the track, no give. Vekoma SLC's are called SLC's for a reason. No they don't swing back and forth, but they could given the right amount of tweaking. Next time you go on an SLC look at the big shocks keeping the car still and notice the swaying forward and backward when going into an inversion, or around a corner. There is give there.

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