Posted Tuesday, January 21, 2003 3:42 AM | Contributed by Jeff
Six Flags today released a pair of studies investigating the effects of thrill rides on the human body. The two studies indicate that there are no serious health risks associated with the rides, and further conclude that there is no link between brain injuries and roller coasters.
The studies, funded by Six Flags, were performed by the American Association of Neurological Surgeons and Exponent Failure Analysis Associates, which investigated the Oklahoma City bombing and Space Shuttle Challenger explosion. Critics, who as of this morning had not yet seen the reports, say that the credibility of any study funded by Six Flags is in question.
Read more from The LA Times.
I'm not surprised one bit at the results, and I doubt anyone else is.
Markey's bill doesn't have a shot in Congress. Those idiots have managed to blow a huge budget surplus, and there certainly isn't money for "problems" like this.
Now who is going to take serious a study funded by Six Flags?
It's kinda like having your mom telling a teacher that your a good kid.
Chuck, who gives more credit to outside studies done by universitys or independents.
Is it about coasters or friends? I say both!
While I agree they are "idiots," I can't completely agree with the 'blown budget surplus.' Between the terrorist attacks, constant terror threats, and the poor economy (as a result of Clinton's super economy built with no foundation), a lot has happened.
Anyway, yes, Markey may be looking for a new job soon.
"and study funded by Six Flags is in question"
... just like any study headed by Markey is in question.
Give me a break. Clinton had zero impact on the economy, negative or positive. He didn't invent the Internet either, and it was the Net that gave everybody dollar signs in the eyes.
Furthermore, giving everyone a $300 tax refund (a load of crap in the first place since I paid about 20 times in federal taxes compared to most Americans and they got the same amount I did) was the stupidest thing the current administration ever did, and it's just as ridiculous now that the Democrats in Congress want to do it. If I have money left at the end of the month, do I give it back to my employer? Of course not, I pay more off of my debt, like the feds should have.
Ooh, a bit testy this morning, Jeff? That's a pretty firey response for a general opinion. Sheesh. Clinton with ZERO impact on the economy? Uh, no, sorry. Now does that mean George W is merely a victim? Nope. Now paragraph two? Still trying to figure out what the heck that is. Third, the whole system is messed up. Democrats following other Dems simply because they carry the label of a Dem, Republicans following the GOP simply because of the label they carry as well. Yep, still wholeheartedly agree, "idiots."
Anyway, back on topic. Wasn't the study done by American Association of Neurological Surgeons, and not Six Flags? I realize Six Flags funded it, and that could hurt some credibility, but well, I'm playing a broken record here.
...gotta say, so far Chuck wins....I mean, I wouldn't take it serious if it were funded by Markey, why should I *swallow* it wholesale since it comes from SFI. There is no *pure science* anymore, everyone wants FUNDING....
Who performs the study doesn't mean SQUAT, it's whose footing the bills that's important...;)
Well just because there are "problems" in Congress doesnt mean that bills wont get passed, it just means they wont be well funded(*koff*NO_CHILD_LEFT_BEHIND*koff*)
But when an interested party funds a study, once should eye the results with special scrutiny.
--who really needs to get that koff looked at ;)
A day is a drop of water in the ocean of eternity. A week is seven drops.
"Six Flags, which operates 40% of U.S. roller coasters and half of the coasters more than 50 feet tall..."
I really like that.. hehehe half the coasters over 50 feet.. hehehe Just struck me as funny.
June 11th, 2001 - Gemini 100
VertiGo Rides - 82
Technical Services - 2002
Frightzone Screamster - 2002
Although this survey could mean nothing and could be a total fluke from Six Flags, it'll be good for the public to read this kind of "survey" report and not reading the false information that the media gives when an accident occurs.
Markey will not get his bill passed. There aren't enough people to support him.
Den, I have to agree.... Taco Bell's tacos are mexi-licious. ;)
I guess it's damned if you do, and damned if you don't...
For us to question the validity of the findings is simply non-productive. And some of you make it sound like you would believe the report if it was from Cedar Fair, or Busch Gardens, or Paramount but not when funded by Six Flags!
Who would you expect to fund this study?
At least Six Flags had the balls to fund the study. all the other Chains and Parks seemed to sit back and wait for congressional action. Now we have a study done by credible organizations (regardless of who funded it) that completely contradict that madman in congress who thinks that roller coasters are killing innocent healthy people.
Regardless of who funded this report we should ALL be proclaiming the study as proof that Representative Markey is a few french fries short of a happy meal!
Since this study brings us back to "Middle Ground" I think that we've made positive progress on the issue.
I tend to agree with Jim that the American Association Of Neurological Surgeons is, as far as I can tell, a credible organization. The questions to ask as a reporter are what kind of political influence they hold. What have they lobbied for? Have they made political contributions?
Regardless, while I haven't seen the studies either, they are presumably scientific from an organization like that, and not anectodal "data" like the nonsense Markey put out.
I wouldn't conclude that the AANS is *for sale* necessarily....although, working at the CoM here at a MAJOR research institution, I can't honestly say that any "hard science" is beyond a little *tweaking* now and again......for the right price.
Remember when phrenology was viewed as *Science*...;). The problem as I see it is that all scientific findings need to be based on certain *assumptions* - those assumptions vary based on what you WANT to find....it's not really as *black and white* as a True/False question, although it certainly would make it easier to decide who and what to believe...;)
"Furthermore, giving everyone a $300 tax refund was the stupidest thing the current administration ever did, and it's just as ridiculous now that the Democrats in Congress want to do it. If I have money left at the end of the month, do I give it back to my employer? Of course not, I pay more off of my debt, like the feds should have. "
Maybe they should have paid more off of their debt...but it's not always about the money. You may not have liked it, but to low-income households, that money was well-appreciated. I have an idea...next time, why don't we just lower the tax rates for lower-income families and stop giving deductions that only higher-income families benefit from...like mortgage interest...Would that be a better idea?
"(a load of crap in the first place since I paid about 20 times in federal taxes compared to most Americans and they got the same amount I did) "
Suddenly a case where the rich don't get richer than the rest of us and this is what we hear. In case you didn't comprehend what the refund was about, it wasn't about people getting a percentage of what they paid back..it was about the changes in rates/income levels at the bottom end of the scale...since most tax-paying Americans were affected the same, they got the same refund.
"Ever hear of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates...Morons!"
The reason you only got $300 back is because the Government cut the tax rate from 15% to 10% on the first $6000 of taxable income. The fact that you paid "20 times more taxes" than the average American means you are very well off and shouldn't be complaining about $300. It helped those out who needed it most as it was intended to do.
*** This post was edited by inverted_one on 1/21/2003. ***
This is all most comical... G forces are not the issue, how about the G forces smashing unsuspecting riders into ill-fated restraints? Now there's something they should be looking at, oh wait a doctor in Minnesota was looking into that. Funny how he was not apart of this study funded by Six Flags.
As far as the American Association Of Neurological Surgeons being paid off or having their expert opinions tainted or messed with... I look at that like this... You're at a baseball game umpiring a game. You're being paid by the home team, and there's a play at home plate, the guy may e out, but who's funding you? So of course no matter how good you are, that guy's safe!
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