Stratosphere goes back to city with 510-foot ride

BigBoy

I could easily hear the Viva Las Vegas, High Roller and Screams at the base of the tower and better from the Sahara(More in earshot) However it is 1000 ft in the air and hard to hear unless you have good hearing. My major points are the Loudspeakers for the jumbotron and the Interstate/Railroad wich as far as I was concearned can't make it that much more quiet than the rest of the Vegas Strip.(Besides Belagios Fountain, and Treasure Islands Show)

I know the stratosphere has been there for only ten years my point was to include that if they didn't want noise in this "quiet" section of Las Vegas they should have thought of this ten/twelve years ago.

Vegas thrives on Tourism shutting down the biggest thrillride in the world is a mistake!!!

Actually the loudest part of the stratosphere trip was that someone pulled the fire alarm while we were at the top. We got stuck listening to a deafening Alarm for a good 20 minutes until they could find and reset the alarm. And get the Elevators up and running again.
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T-Wolf...

I wasn't implying that there are a lot of houses and apartments in that area, I was just trying to point out that they are CLOSER to LV Blvd near Stratosphere than on the south end of the strip. 

I'd still rather see Stratosphere build a great coaster with that money than build a large drop ride. 

 

How loud do you think this coaster is going to be anyways?

The loudest part of a roller coaster is the lift hill, and from what I remember, this thing is going to use a cable lift. 

Its not even going to be a loud as Speed The Ride. If any of you paid attetion you would know that Arrow and Strat Tower have allready addressed the noise issue Stating that Speed The Ride will be eiser to hear, the noise is all based on ride design... and this one is a damn good design.-----------------

It's barely worth doing at this point.  510 feet tall, sure--but with a drop of how many feet?  With a peak speed of 93 MPH, it can't be much significantly more than MF or SD2K.

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Wow! Never thought I'd see the day when anyone would say a ride isn't worth doing because it *only* has a drop of 300 or so feet. ;)

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It will be a mighty fine ride, dispite what anyone says. Yes, its gotta be a ton of money for just a drop and hook, but they are aiming just to have a record. Personally, I would suggest them buying land somewhere on the strip, and building not a hyper, but maybe 1 or 2 extremely unique and themed coasters, heck even start a theme park, like MGM, knowing that they love rides and casinos, and heck, they make enough from the casino to build a huge amusement park.

I know im exaduarting, but it is possible money wise with Strat. Anyway, back to the topic, dont forget that it still seems that the coaster cars will be enclosed, kind of defeting the purpose of a 400ft drop. They should take the indoor out of the design, then they got a ride with a real rush. If it was 700ft, yes enclose the coaster though.

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If it would be classified as a Roller Coaster, it wouldn't be Tera because it's 500 ft. not 400.

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T-Wolf wrote...I can understand there being a noise issue with this coaster but if that is the case they should have thought about it along time ago when they bought a house or appartment in this area.

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I doubt that when people bought/leased/rented a house/apartment they thought there would be a roller coaster near their homes. They live there, most of us do not. IMO they have more of a right to say we don't want it here then we have a right to say it should be there. However, if it is built, you better believe I would be on it someday.

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John 9411: If it would be classified as a Roller Coaster, it wouldn't be Tera because it's 500 ft. not 400.

Why wouldn't be classified a rollercoaster? It's just as much a rollercoaster as S:TE. (and no I'm not trying to stir up that arguement). It will roll and coast on track - that makes it rollercoaster. It has more in common with a shuttle coaster than say an Itamin first generation freefall.

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Not really tell me how this is any different then Mr. Hydes Nasty Fall, or Demon Drop? Your train is pulled up the lift and you are dropped down. Ya know? Only difference is that you face forward down instead of straight out.

Extend the brake run on a first Generation freefall to a hook like this ride has and you will have basically the same thing only on a smaller scale. This is a drop ride not a coaster.

As for it being a Tera coaster, A Hyper, Giga etc etc by definition is a full circuit noninverting coaster like Raging Bull, Millenium Force, SD2K etc etc. That is why S:TE isn't considered the first giga or even tera as it is 415 feet tall.

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Personally, I would much rather base jump off of the top of the tower itself than be on a drop ride / rollercoaster or whatever you want its name to be. Here's something. Why don't they build drop tower adjacent to the the tower itself that is just like Supreme Scream at Knott's? It wouldn't really be THAT much of an eyesore, plus it would only make the noise of the compressed air at the top. Even though that is nearly impossible, that still would be fun to think of.

500 would me a Petacoaster, i guess.

Actually, I do believe a locomotive creates more noise than any coaster. My campus is built right next to a large trainline, with about 5 different tracks. Not only is their the noise of the engine, there is also the clickety clack of the metal wheels on the track. And on top of that, there is a high pitched squeel that you hear every time there is a turn, which is more irritating than even TOT or S:TE.

Another thing, why is everyone quick to call 400+ or 500+ rides a tera or whatever? I strongly doubt Intamin will call the 400ft breaker a Tera coaster. Firstly, it sounds stupid, it doesn't flow, no one would know what it means. Millennium Force wasnt a "Giga RollerCoaster" because of some computer-esque prefix system. Think about it - millennium, giga... they sort of go hand in hand. Now you'll lash back at me saying Intamin called their 200ft-ers Mega, so its sorta a pattern. I don't think they were called Mega for the true sense of it, more just "wow, thats one mega sized coaster!".

This probably isn't the place to discuss this, I just thought I should bring it up.

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Swoosh: Why wouldn't be classified a rollercoaster?

I'm not saying it wouldn't be a rollercoaster, but some people may think it's not (like S:TE). But I definetly would call it a coaster.

The roller coaster 'Tera', 'Giga', and 'Mega' follow a mathematics pattern, don't they? so the next would be Peta.

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That's what I'm talking about. Ride on to that!

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Wow, I never knew people would complain about such a ride. No, I'm not talking about the residents, I'm talking about the majority of these posts. I'm glad they're considering such a wonderful ride. All you people do is complain about it, you complain about what it's going to be called, what it is, etc.etc. Well, I just can't wait until they announce if they'll build it or not. Also, I don't blame the residents who live their about their complains, even though I'm totally for the roller coaster.

These people can't argue that it is an eye sore because there are huge structures in the area.( hello, it's Las Vegas). Second, I have been to a few amusement parks, and when I am in the parking lot the only things I can hear are the lift hill. This thing will have cable lifts, which are fairly quiet, If I remember correctly. I do not see what the problem is. I have been to Vegas 2 times in the last 3 years, It's a loud city, I don't think they will hear this ride.

I DON'T SEE THE PROBLEM!!!

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Vegas is certainly loud on the strip, but the Strat is much further from the main drag. Yes, there is also noise near the Strat. But, as mentioned above, the houses near the larger hotels on the main part of the strip are several blocks away. The houses near the Strat are right across the friggin street (Las Vegas Blvd). Remember, TWolf, there are 4 sides to the Strat. You said you were facing away from the strip, which tells me you didn't see the houses/apartments on the other side of the blvd. The noise from the rides on top of the Strat is barely audible, but a ride that crosses the blvd will be much noisier.

Think for a moment. Many people who live in Vegas work at the hotels and casinos. If you worked the graveyard shift, you'd be sleeping during the day (or trying to) when this ride would be getting its largest share of riders.

I would love to see this ride built. I would ride it. It would lure more people to that part of town. It would lure more developers as well. Pretty soon, that "dead space" between the main strip and the Strat could be filled with more hotels/casinos. Great for tourism. Bad for the people who have been living in those neighborhoods.

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