Stratosphere goes back to city with 510-foot ride

Posted Thursday, February 28, 2002 5:33 AM | Contributed by Jeff

Stratosphere officials in Las Vegas are back before the city with plans for a shorter, 510-foot hook-shaped roller coaster. The ride would cross the street at 93 mph and climb another 325-foot tower. The new proposal will be handled by the planning commission then sent to council in April. The resort withdrew its plans in November when it was apparent that council would reject the plans for the larger ride.

Read more from the Las Vegas Review-Journal.

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Thursday, February 28, 2002 5:37 AM
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Thursday, February 28, 2002 5:57 AM
It's 200' ft. taller than MF and goes the same speed?  It's a straight drop too.  Anyone explain?
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Thursday, February 28, 2002 6:04 AM

Quote from Ben Contin in afformentioned article "Nobody wants to live in the shadow of a carnival ride."

All I have to say to that is I DO...I DO!!!!!!!!! ;) But then again I am a thrillride junkie. I hope I have enough land eventually when I buy a house and would be able to get permission to build myself a backyard coaster.-----------------Now open Zero-G Thrills, an all new Coaster and Amusement Park Photos site http://zerogthrills.topcities.com/index.html

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Thursday, February 28, 2002 6:25 AM
I don't see how this is going to appease the locals any more than the last proposal.
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Thursday, February 28, 2002 6:44 AM
Only 510 ft. tall?  I'm dissapointed. 
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Thursday, February 28, 2002 7:10 AM
ApolloAndy, it would be 510ft tall, but obviously it's not going to drop 510ft. Might cause a bit of a traffic problem ;)  Thus, the 93mph speed, which is probably an estimate anyway...


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Thursday, February 28, 2002 7:32 AM
I would love to take a ride on this moster if and when it opens.  But I can understand why the people who live near it don't want it.  We would not have to see or hear it 365 days a year.  Would I want it if I lived there? OH YEAH!  But it sounds like the city council has listened to the residents and acted on it (Which is amazing in its self).
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Thursday, February 28, 2002 8:13 AM
Here we are in Las Vegas the city the never sleeps, and people are whining about a coaster making too much noise.  Yeah right.  I would think they complain about everything else there too. -----------------
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Thursday, February 28, 2002 8:38 AM
Besides, as we *KNOW* from the Summers-Dinn coasters, trim brakes can always compensate for a lifthill that is "too high", thereby reducing speed to an acceptable level....ROFL...
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Thursday, February 28, 2002 9:57 AM
The major difference between a coaster on Las Vegas Blvd, like Manhattan Exp or Speed, is that there is no housing nearby.  But north of the Strip, where Stratosphere is, homes and apartments are much closer to Las Vegas Blvd, hence noise is an issue. I may be in the minotity here but I don't blame the residents for not wanting this.
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Thursday, February 28, 2002 10:05 AM
I agree with you Mamoosh.  The Strat is at the very end of the strip and it's their own fault for building the resort in that area in the first place.  No-one wants to go out there because it is so far removed from everything else and that part of town isn't the safest of areas.  Also, I think this project will never get the greenlight because of the coaster crossing the street.  That is too much of a distraction to drivers that already have enough to look at.  Keep it on property like Manhattan Express and Speed, and your chances might be better. *** This post was edited by AdamFrank on 2/28/2002. ***
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Thursday, February 28, 2002 10:20 AM
Something that is puzzeling me about this ride and what I have heard being said about the reasoning for this ride not being allowed.

For instance specifically what Mamoosh just said.

I just stayed on the 24th floor of the Stratosphere Hotel this last week for 4 days. My Room was facing away from the strip and yes there are a few appartments and houses but not many. I can understand there being a noise issue with this coaster but if that is the case they should have thought about it along time ago when they bought a house or appartment in this area.

For one this coaster I assume would be a lot like any other thillride in vegas and would not operate all night long. i believe they all shutdown at one in the morning on weekends and earlier during the week eleven or midnight. Second the stratosphere already has a coaster and an S&S that blares Viva Las Vegas evrerytime it runs at the top of the tower along with a very loud speaker to accompany the large video monitor that every 10 minutes prominately blares the sounds of someone hitting the jackpot on a slot machine(Very annoying while waiting for the bus) not to mention Speed with its loud LIM fires just a block down the strip at the Sahara. Third this residential area that is in question happens to be located in between the stratosphere at the end of the main strip and an interstate with the downtown area down the road on Vegas Blvd, and right next to that interstate happens to be a major Rail Road that Blares its horn as it passes every road as it passes each street on its way through Vegas at various hours in the middle of the night.

Before i visited Vegas I had heard someone say this is a quiet area of Vegas and believed it, However that is not the case this part of the strip is just as loud and the major point is this ride would probably not run through the middle of the night as does the train.

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Thursday, February 28, 2002 10:20 AM
We got a hyper and giga.Whats this gonna be called.

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Thursday, February 28, 2002 10:25 AM
I believe the term is tera-coaster...Am I right? :-)-----------------
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Thursday, February 28, 2002 10:54 AM
T-Wolf:

I've got a problem with some of your arguments.

Stratoshpere has been there less than 10 years and I bet those houses and apartments have been there a lot longer than that.

Yes, I know there are loudspeakers that blare Viva Las Vegas every few minutes at the top of the tower, but those things are over 1000 feet in the freakin' air.  You can't tell me you can hear it or the rides at the bottom.

And, railroad tracks running behind a neighborhood are a heck of alot different from a 300 foot tower with a car running about 90 mph. Nonetheless, I can sympathize with both sides of the argument on this issue. It will be interesting to see the outcome. I really doubt that this thing ever sees the light of day.
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Thursday, February 28, 2002 10:59 AM
I wouldn't really consider it a coaster guys, so Terra gigga or whatever doesn't count. After all S:TE is 400 feet tall already. This is more of a drop ride ala First Generation Freefall, just a really really really big one.

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Thursday, February 28, 2002 11:27 AM
Umm there's a park in Europe that's building a 400+ tall Intamin full-circuit. Should probably consult them about what to call it...

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Thursday, February 28, 2002 11:45 AM

Over 400 is Terra but we don't call S:TE a Terra Coaster.

If built as rumored to over 400 feet the Coaster at Hiede Park will be the first Terra Coaster. Although I have heard now that the planned height is under 400 feet. We'll have to wait and see beuase its all rumors and speculations at this point.

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Thursday, February 28, 2002 11:58 AM
MagForce - its T-E-R-A, not "terra."  Terra means "earth," as in "terra firma."
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