Stratosphere coaster to face Vegas council again

Posted Tuesday, October 16, 2001 11:42 AM | Contributed by Jeff

Stratosphere's proposal to build a 740-foot "fish hook" coaster on the side of its tower will get its day before the Las Vegas city council Wednesday night. Nearby residents have strongly opposed the new ride, while proponents say it will spawn more development and attract more people to Las Vegas.

Read more from The Las Vegas Review-Journal.

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Tuesday, October 16, 2001 11:49 AM
Hopefully the Stratosphere will win this time!  That ride looks absolutely INSANE!  Plus, I don't know why the locals are complaining about noise, seeing as the ride vehicles are enclosed!
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Tuesday, October 16, 2001 11:51 AM
Who really knows what it will sound like, but I have no problem hearing Millennium Force anywhere at Cedar Point, and that's when it's empty.

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Tuesday, October 16, 2001 11:55 AM
If the residents don't want to live near a "carnival," why do they chose to live in Vegas?  Everyone knows the entire city is sustained by the money tourists spend on gambling, prostitution and other "adult" stuff.  Move to a "serious" city.
Tuesday, October 16, 2001 11:58 AM
I love that pic.  those cars and colors look awesome.  I don't like the fact that the cars are enclosed, but that's probably necessary.

no comment on the sound issue.

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Tuesday, October 16, 2001 12:07 PM
For what it's worth, in the SFGAm parking lot, you can't hear the coasters because of Gurnee and I-94's noise.
Tuesday, October 16, 2001 12:18 PM
I don't understand how you complain about the noise of the High Roller.  It's such a small coaster and it over 800 feet int air for crying out loud!  How in the world could you here it?
Tuesday, October 16, 2001 12:25 PM
Its gonna pass.  Especially after the events of last month.  Vegas needs a boost in tourist attendance, the city council members know this.
Tuesday, October 16, 2001 1:12 PM
Actually, I live in Vegas and travel by the Tower almost everyday on my way to school. You can't hear the rides themselves, you actually hear the screams of the passengers. Most of the time, however, there's enough traffic and stuff going on that you can't even hear it, but occasionally you can. Hell, when they due bomb testing out at the Test Site normally you cant hear it, but occasionly if the wind is right you can hear them being dropped.

Now with a 400ft tower, this ride is gonna make noise! How much, we dont know. Speed the Ride can be heard from over a mile away, but it uses hard polyurethane wheels. If these are airfilled like S&S im sure it will be cool.

Tuesday, October 16, 2001 1:36 PM
What kins of ride will it be ? It looks weird, but kinda like one of the Turbo rides that six flags has in there parks only with shoulder harnesses.
Tuesday, October 16, 2001 2:11 PM
After reading the article, it sounds like the Fish Hook will not get approved.

As cool as the ride would be, the wierd structure really ruins the sleek lines of the Stratosphere Tower. Being enclosed does not sound like a good idea either. And what's up with the teal and yellow color scheme? YUCK! (yes, that's my opinion)

"X" marks the spot in 2001!

Tuesday, October 16, 2001 3:48 PM
The people at arrow need this one to go through or they are done for. I don't think SFMM will be doing any more work with them with the problems of X. Which is too bad because they have made a lot of SFMM rides/coasters. I was also looking forward to seeing an arrowbatic coaster next year too. Oh well maybe a really good intamin woody fill find a home at MM.
Tuesday, October 16, 2001 4:21 PM

The ride will be very loud. S:TE is 400 ft. tall and travels at a mere 100 mph, and the cars sound like fighter jets. A 740 ft. tall ride would be considerably louder.
Tuesday, October 16, 2001 6:23 PM
Well hers what i am wondering since when do people actually live in las vegas, it is a tourist destination and should reamian that way not a town where u live, also the stratosphere is all the way at the end of the strip making it harder to attract visitors.
Tuesday, October 16, 2001 7:55 PM
What a rush!  I don't mind TOO much that the car is enclosed, looks to me like an intense ride.
Tuesday, October 16, 2001 8:35 PM
I really doubt it will pass. The houses and community were there way before the Strarosphere was there and before the extension of the northern part of The Strip. I would love to see that kind of "coster" built but not at the Stratosphere. Plus Arrow wants to build something that is way out of its league. The track would have to be much longer for that kind of drop, so it slows down easier. Especially travelling at over 150+MPH and come to a dead stop would be hell to the riders. Drops that high are very unproven on a human body. If you are going to build something that tall and fast it should 1st be a full circuit coaster with much longer track.
I may be from IL, but i sure can't get enough of the FORCE. MF!!!
Tuesday, October 16, 2001 9:03 PM
why would a freefall hurt people?
drops that high arent unproven im sure the military does stuff like that all the time and skydivers do that kind of thing all the time too and they arent dying also S:TE goes just 20 MPH slower than that and it doesnt hurt people

and it wont come to a dead stop, it will rock back and forth between the two towers and it only goes 120 MPH

why would it have to be full circuit first? and if they use air-filled tires or put sand in the rails it wont be as loud *** This post was edited by Wackokid on 10/17/2001. ***

Wednesday, October 17, 2001 12:23 PM
I saw the model at the hotel on my last trip to LV, This thing looks awsome it needs to be built, it will help bring people to Vegas.

The hotel has a ballot box in front of the model so people can show there support, I'm sure they will have all of these cards with them.

The hope is that because of the slow in tourism the city will reconsider and ok the ride, after talking to the people that were there to promote the ride, I was told that if they get the green light  the ride could be open withen a year.

To the issue of how the ride works, by looking at the model the cars will assend an elevator to the top of the ride tower then go forward over the drop like a regular Coaster not a freefall, after cars slow from the drop there is a transfer track from the main line to the station line which is under the main track(just like Intamin freefalls)it then rolls backwards into the station to be loaded again. A few other observations,the ride does look like a "Fishhook"  it appears you will almost be inverted near the end of the ride, the entrance is in the Strat-O-Fair area at the base of the tower where the ferris wheel and the frog hopper are located, The cars look like they will rotate or face diffrent directions when they asend the elevator. The drop tower faces the Hilton but when the cars go up they will face south down the strip at least in the model they do.Finally the model car seats have the same restraints as X.Again this is what I got from the model at the hotel so some of this could be wrong.

Fell free to ask any questions I will try to answear what I can.


Wednesday, October 17, 2001 12:28 PM
Here we go again with the "how can they complain?"

Well, if I may remind you, everybody at this website is a Coaster enthusiast, and having one in our backyard wouldn't be too bad. However, I can bet the majority of people there around the Tower aren't the biggest Coaster fanatics, nor the biggest gamblers. We all know that many of the people who visit tourist attractions are just that -- tourists. This includes Las Vegas. The people probably didn't move there to gamble, they moved there because they needed somewhere to live.

I doubt the fish hook will be built. Would you like a Millennium Force in your backyard?

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Thursday, October 18, 2001 9:10 AM
I thought the council vote was on the 17th ?

What happend.



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