Do anyone of you think that SV at Valleyfair might be a hold off for a new VF coaster for the 2004 season? Because Cedar Point had WT and the got TTD the next year. Any thoughts? Im not really sure though because VF is a much smaller park, and I think that CP even added that WT was made basically "hold off" the wait for TTD. *** This post was edited by Wickedtwister180 3/25/2003 10:26:40 PM ***
Well SV was 8.5 million and WT was 12 million so it still could happen, there are many other coasters like a Wooden Twister that costs less than an Impulse, so it still could happen, I doubt it though..
Okayyyyyyy.....this question is relevant right after you can list a few 1 million visitor/year parks that have built coasters in successive seasons. And no, Boomerang/SLC combos do not count--their combined cost equals a decent Morgan hyper or Intamin Impulse.
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$13 million (CP's 2002 cap ex budget w/ WT and Snoopy on Ice) = the average cap budget for CP
$13 million also equals $3 million more than VF has ever been given for a cap budget. Ever.
BTW, you'll never see a MF or Dragster at VF ever ever ever ever ever. Not only is $25 million impossible to justify unless you have triple VF's attendance and a gaggle of hotels, Flying Cloud Ariport is too close to permit any structures that tall. Why do you think PT is only 275 feet tall?
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You got me all wrong, I would never ever think that VF would got a TTD coaster!! Im just saying maybe a 9 million woddie twister or somthing like that, I never think that VF could get a 420 foot coaster!
You really don't have much of an idea how park capital budgets work. VF will usually get about $3 million a year unless there's something big going up. Large investments are generally expected to get paid off over two seasons. So to answer your original question, the answer is an emphatic no. Frankly, SV is to VF is like MF or TTD to CP. Two big-budget seasons in four years' time is plenty.
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For VF Venom is not a "hold off" or "filler" because they're a smaller park and have a smaller budget. Cedar Point, however, has a bigger yearly budget, so that piece of impulsed crap that was installed between Disaster Transport and the aquatic stadium could arguably be a "hold off" or a pacifier kind of ride.
True Playa but look at near history and some previous cap budgets. Before MF 12 million for a coaster was a lot of money. It's just after 25 mill for MF 12 Million doesn't seem like much. Now we think CP has to have the most expensive coaster ever built to be a big expenditure.
How much was Mantis? Power Tower?
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