Son of Beast not first looping woodie??

Friday, March 18, 2005 7:31 PM
http://www.rcdb.com/id2626.htm

I was looking at rcdb and found this interesting. They say it is wood and it has a loop. But there are no pictures. Has anyone heard or know anything about this ride.

I just found it kind of strange.

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Friday, March 18, 2005 7:33 PM
There was a looping woodie at Coney Island years ago too....
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Friday, March 18, 2005 7:35 PM
There've been a couple looping woodies in the past. SoB dosn't claim to be the first, just the only one around now.

Woodies looped long before steel did.

Edit: cut part of my post off, grr... *** Edited 3/19/2005 4:14:05 AM UTC by TeknoScorpion***

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Friday, March 18, 2005 7:35 PM
http://www.rcdb.com/pd963.htm

Are you talking about Loop-the-Loop. Because it says that is a steel.

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Friday, March 18, 2005 7:43 PM
I believe there were historically serveral (I hesitate to use the word 'many') wooden loop coasters. Most probably weren't documented due to the time frame.

I remember this confusion way back when SOB opened. Seems a lot of coaster fans confused the marketing line of "the world's only wooden looping coaster" (which it is) with "the world's first wooden looping coaster" - big difference.

The first looping coaster was built 150+ years before SOB - you have to figure there were quite a few attempts made with wood. Many we'll probably never know about.

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Friday, March 18, 2005 7:45 PM
...and lets hope SOB is the last!
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Friday, March 18, 2005 7:49 PM
Well mabye in 150+ years from now they'll have the art of woodie loopers down pat.

Dare to Dream ;)

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Friday, March 18, 2005 7:56 PM
There were a few attempts way back in the day. The most notable was called the Flip Flap, which I believe opened at Coney Island in 1896. It had a reputation for being a little rough on the neck. The Loop the Loop opened a few years later.
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Friday, March 18, 2005 8:13 PM
The Flip Flap had only a 13' diameter loop. So you do the math. I did a report about the history so I had known about these.
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Friday, March 18, 2005 8:20 PM
If you did a report invoving Flip Flap, why the hell did you ask if SOB wasn't the first looping woodie? Besides the fact that there have been threads about it before..;)

RCDB lists the Flip Flap loop with a diameter of 25' by the way. *** Edited 3/19/2005 1:22:30 AM UTC by RamblinWreck***

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Friday, March 18, 2005 8:22 PM
When I looked it up it said steel. And FYI it wasn't just on the Flip Flap it was on all coasters in general.

And I'm a new member so I'm to lazy to check other threads ;) *** Edited 3/19/2005 1:22:57 AM UTC by Corkscrewy***

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Friday, March 18, 2005 8:25 PM
Involving, not on. I know the difference between the two. I figured it was on coasters in general. I wish I got a chance to write about coasters, I always get stuck with boring topics :(

That second statement won't help you on this site by the way ;)

*** Edited 3/19/2005 1:25:44 AM UTC by RamblinWreck***

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Friday, March 18, 2005 8:26 PM
Probably not... But I need a good excuse. :)
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Friday, March 18, 2005 8:31 PM
there have been a handfull of woodies built before the 1920's that had loops. Most of them were demolished durring the depression though.

I remember reading somwhere that at the beginning of the 1920s there were a couple thousand rollercoasters in the US alone. compare that to the 744(rcdb.com) that exist in North America today.

SoB is often refered to as being the first "Modern wooden looping coaster"

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Friday, March 18, 2005 10:19 PM
A lot of things at PKI weren't the first that people think were. King Cobra wasn't the first standup. Outerlimits wasn't the first coaster to use LIMs, etc.
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Friday, March 18, 2005 10:28 PM
PKI is just selling us lies!!!!!! Noooo...;)
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Friday, March 18, 2005 10:59 PM
And what was the first to use LIMs?
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Friday, March 18, 2005 11:15 PM
According to RCDB FOF at PKI was the 1st LIM coaster.
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Friday, March 18, 2005 11:31 PM
Back to one of the original questions, Encyclopædia Britannica has an image of a primitive wooden looping coaster: Coney Island's Flip-Flap Railway.

http://search.eb.com/coasters/oconeyi009p4.html

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Saturday, March 19, 2005 12:01 AM
Nope, PKITEMPSOB. It was the first to have a high speed launch with LIMS, but the first coaster to use them was Big Thunder Mountain Railroad.

See #16: http://www.disneylandian.com/faqs/btmr.html

(They are only used for slow sections, like the station. Also, the People Mover at Disney used LIMS too....these both are WAY before FOF.) *** Edited 3/19/2005 5:04:26 AM UTC by Peabody***

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