Son of Beast not first looping woodie??

http://www.rcdb.com/id2626.htm

I was looking at rcdb and found this interesting. They say it is wood and it has a loop. But there are no pictures. Has anyone heard or know anything about this ride.

I just found it kind of strange.

There was a looping woodie at Coney Island years ago too....

There've been a couple looping woodies in the past. SoB dosn't claim to be the first, just the only one around now.

Woodies looped long before steel did.

Edit: cut part of my post off, grr... *** Edited 3/19/2005 4:14:05 AM UTC by TeknoScorpion***

http://www.rcdb.com/pd963.htm

Are you talking about Loop-the-Loop. Because it says that is a steel.

I believe there were historically serveral (I hesitate to use the word 'many') wooden loop coasters. Most probably weren't documented due to the time frame.

I remember this confusion way back when SOB opened. Seems a lot of coaster fans confused the marketing line of "the world's only wooden looping coaster" (which it is) with "the world's first wooden looping coaster" - big difference.

The first looping coaster was built 150+ years before SOB - you have to figure there were quite a few attempts made with wood. Many we'll probably never know about.

...and lets hope SOB is the last!

Well mabye in 150+ years from now they'll have the art of woodie loopers down pat.

Dare to Dream ;)

There were a few attempts way back in the day. The most notable was called the Flip Flap, which I believe opened at Coney Island in 1896. It had a reputation for being a little rough on the neck. The Loop the Loop opened a few years later.

The Flip Flap had only a 13' diameter loop. So you do the math. I did a report about the history so I had known about these.

If you did a report invoving Flip Flap, why the hell did you ask if SOB wasn't the first looping woodie? Besides the fact that there have been threads about it before..;)

RCDB lists the Flip Flap loop with a diameter of 25' by the way. *** Edited 3/19/2005 1:22:30 AM UTC by RamblinWreck***

When I looked it up it said steel. And FYI it wasn't just on the Flip Flap it was on all coasters in general.

And I'm a new member so I'm to lazy to check other threads ;) *** Edited 3/19/2005 1:22:57 AM UTC by Corkscrewy***

Involving, not on. I know the difference between the two. I figured it was on coasters in general. I wish I got a chance to write about coasters, I always get stuck with boring topics :(

That second statement won't help you on this site by the way ;)

*** Edited 3/19/2005 1:25:44 AM UTC by RamblinWreck***

Probably not... But I need a good excuse. :)

there have been a handfull of woodies built before the 1920's that had loops. Most of them were demolished durring the depression though.

I remember reading somwhere that at the beginning of the 1920s there were a couple thousand rollercoasters in the US alone. compare that to the 744(rcdb.com) that exist in North America today.

SoB is often refered to as being the first "Modern wooden looping coaster"

A lot of things at PKI weren't the first that people think were. King Cobra wasn't the first standup. Outerlimits wasn't the first coaster to use LIMs, etc.

PKI is just selling us lies!!!!!! Noooo...;)

And what was the first to use LIMs?

According to RCDB FOF at PKI was the 1st LIM coaster.

Back to one of the original questions, Encyclopædia Britannica has an image of a primitive wooden looping coaster: Coney Island's Flip-Flap Railway.

http://search.eb.com/coasters/oconeyi009p4.html

Nope, PKITEMPSOB. It was the first to have a high speed launch with LIMS, but the first coaster to use them was Big Thunder Mountain Railroad.

See #16: http://www.disneylandian.com/faqs/btmr.html

(They are only used for slow sections, like the station. Also, the People Mover at Disney used LIMS too....these both are WAY before FOF.) *** Edited 3/19/2005 5:04:26 AM UTC by Peabody***