Son of Beast needs work Bad!


Olsor said:


And exactly why shouldn't a ride that caused numerous people injuries be dismantled?


RATTLER! has anyone actually seen all the lawsuits and medical reports charged against that ride? It's astounding, do a quick search on the web and you'll find em.

Dante, who couldn't even fathom how rough a 218' tall woodie like SOB must be.

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Racer-forward seriously needs retracking. Racer-back was retracked two or three years ago, hence the better ride.

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Why can't people understand? Drachen Fire was removed because no one wanted to ride it. On the busiest of summer days, it would be running one train half full at best. The primary motivation was the fact that no one rode it.

As for SOB, I haven't ridden it this year; but in the past I've found it rough, but not intolerable. Certainly better than Mean Streak, Wolverine Wildcat (the worst), and Hercules.

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DorneyDante said:


RATTLER! has anyone actually seen all the lawsuits and medical reports charged against that ride?


I've seen the reports online... the only reason I imagine that ride is still operating is because of the major reprofiling it has undergone. When I rode it in 2000, it was merely bad. When I rode it last fall, it was horrible, and earned my "lifetime ban" status.

And what is the common thread between Rattler and SOB? http://www.rcca.com/rides.html

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Come on fhqwhgads!

Frightening Olser, I never really realized that. What I still don't understand and the question that no one has still never really fully answered for me. Why did PKI build a 218' tall woodie? What were they thinking? If they would have done just the smallest, tiniest bit of research on mega woodies, they would have learned a little bit. I mean, what made them think they could build a woodie that big (using standard wood tracking) and it would turn out to be a good ride that the GP would like and wanna ride over and over again? They got a big problem, ok a huge problem on their hands in the upcoming years.

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"You know its a good ride when you come into the final brake run wiping tears from your eyes."

You people are pussies. That is one of the most popular rides there and the GP thinks its a good ride. Rough, yes, but in general it is a very popular and highly rated ride. Its not going to cause any injuries. I'm 6'1" 245 and I ride it 10-20 times every time I visit PKI and love it every time. It is my favorite woody in the world.

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You know I just started this post to point out what I have seen happen with the SOB. We don't need people flaming other people just because of our opinions. Like stated before I never said that I hated the Son of Beast, I actually do like the ride. But I just stated that yesterday I had a bad ride. That's all. If you don't have anything nice to say about anyone keep it to yourself.
Mike77, I hope you were calling people kittens. If not, expand your vocabulary a bit. I am sure you are more intelligent than that comment makes you appear.

There have been multiple complaints about the roughness of the ride. If hurting guests is not a concern to PKI then I am sure hurting their wallet will be at some point. Knowing what is spent on maintenance of Mean Streak I can only guess what the maintenance costs are on SOB.


Mike77 said:
You people are pussies.


Yousers! I'd watch my mouth if I were you. This is a PG website. If I recall no one is bashing SOB.

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Mike77 said:
Rough, yes, but in general it is a very popular and highly rated ride.

Highly rated? By whom?

http://www.geocities.com/wcoasterpoll/wcprs02.htm

No one here is mindlessly stating "Son of Beast sucks," because that comment requires 0% analysis, and 100% subjectivity. You know, kind of like saying "you people are all [insert epithet here]."

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Olsor said:

The common link between Rattler and SOB? http://www.rcca.com/rides.html

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Come on fhqwhgads!

Thank you. Someone finally stated the obvious. Almost universally the coaster manufactuer determines rough or smooth. Granted there are a few exceptions of bad park maintenance, but generally if an infamous company builds it, it is their fault.



Olsor said:
Highly rated? By whom?

http://www.geocities.com/wcoasterpoll/wcprs02.htm


*Psst, thats the coaster enthusiast opinion. Doesn't really reflect the GP. Two completely different worlds.

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DorneyDante said:
They got a big problem, ok a huge problem on their hands in the upcoming years.

Not necessarily - but we might have a log-cabin themed area at PKI in the near future ... or bonfire nights ... or pet stick day ... or ...

Just my two cents? SOB was awful, I thought it was a complete flop. The potential was there, and I love the huge "bowl" but practically slamming to a stop before the loop, then crawling through it and just barely making it through the rest of the course, all in trains that a person 5'10" and one 5'8" can't even fit into comfortably (not to mention the back/headaches from someone who thought Steel Phantom was smooth ... )? I expect more from a major park company ...

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Snap43 said:
I'll be honest with you I havent ridden SOB since 2000 so I can't say if it got rougher. But my absolute least favortie wood coaster is CP's Blue Streak I dunno what it is about it but every time I ride it I'm regreting it by the time I get to the top of the lift hill, I hate it more than I hate Mean Streak. Everytime I ride BS I get off holding my back I dunno if its the trains or what, I don't get it. On the other hand I hear people complain about CLP's BS about it being rough and painful but I can ride that coaster all day long with no complaints.

My goodness, and I thought I was alone on this! Blue Streak really hurt! I mean, not your typical wooden coaster roughness, but I got off with back pain! And that ride wasn't even that thrilling to make up for that! What airtime? These people really need to get off their soapboxes with Blue Streak preaching. And I'm not heavy either. I'm 5'9" and 140 Ibs.

As for Son of Beast...it pulled in at #133 on the IWTRC poll, that's kind of disappointing when something as impressive as that is built to perform as good as it looks (yet to happen, I'm thinking).



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At least The Beast is still awesome.

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If there was one ride EVER built that desperately called for M-Flyer style trains....Sonny....stop destroying the trackwork before any real repairs CAN take effect....;)
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I'm taking that comment VERY seriously. The only real problem I can see in Sonny is the trains. Face it , If that lapbar wasn't on your knees , or there was more padding , would you be complaining people?As i've said before , watch the crowd coming off. Short people are smiling , Tall people are aching.

Besides that , the only places of the trackwork that are bad are the first turn into the bowl, and halfway up the bowl into the midcourse brakes.Or maybe that's just the trains.

Please prove me wrong on this , but do it in a nice way ;)

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Sig screwed up , so let me just say Sonny is my #1. I am short.


Sorry I never knew I couldn't say pussy as seeing pissed and damn every other day .... How about not as tolerable to roungness as others, I think that will do. Back on topic the GP thinks this coaster is a very good one enthusiast just don't like it for some reason, but I DO!

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I always have to laugh at how some fans defend SOB:

"It's a great ride and very smooth...if you ride it on a non-wheel seat, after 5pm, on a Tuesday with a temperature of 70* and 34% humidity, and with 20 other people in the train."

Yeah...and having a root canal is fun...if you have plenty of novacaine and don't actually have the dentist do any drilling! LOL!

mOOSH

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I came from the UK on a sort of theme park trip around a lot of the Mid-West parks. I will tell you- out of EVERY coaster I have EVER done, which is now nearing about 120 different coasters, Son of Beast is the worst.

Why? I put the lap-bar on as I usually do on a wooden coaster... secure, but not too tight on my stomach. At the bottom of the first drop, it clicked down (forces, speed, I dunno?) and was basically crushing me to a pulp.

Despite this extreme tightness, the ride still manages to shake you around like a rag-doll. The shaking is unbearable and its just soooo rough. Its one of the few rides I really really wanted to get off. The best part of the ride is the loop, because its the smoothest part. Other than that, it just kills you- hurting your back, stomach and neck.

SoB could be one of the best coasters in the world. Instead, due to its extreme roughness and bad restraint design, its the worst. In my opinion, its worse than any Arrow Looper I've done (e.g. Corkscrew at Alton Towers) and believe me, that is rough!

I grew up riding RWB at my home park and still ride it to this day where it is pure pain. When I went to PKI for the first time this year I wanted off of SOB before the ride was over because it hurt so much. I hated SOB for it's roughness, but thought the loop was truly amazing. The day I rode it, IMO, it was the worst coaster I've ever been on.

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