Some quick Flying Turns info

I sent an e-mail to Knoebels requesting the info as to the location of the Flying Turns and this is what I just received back:

"Sorry for the late response. The Flying Turns is being built where the Whirlwind was. It has a little larger blueprint, the Flying Frogs game will need to be moved, and we lose one parking space, but it is not in the way of the Looper. As a neat sidebar, both the Looper and the Flying Turns are side-by-side, and both were created by Norman Bartlett."

Maybe not the most exciting info but when I look out my window here at work and it's snowing like crazy I need something to get me through the next few months!

Losing 1 parking spot?!?!? I guess that makes this a parking lot coaster. Great... Knoebel's is turning into SFMM. ;) ;) ;)

John Fetterman, the man responsible for relocating Phoenix, designing and building Twister, and now bringing the Flying Turns back to life, recently posted some info about the ride on RRC, as a response to Rick of DAFE:

Dear Rick,
While the fact is that two of the Euclid Beach Park rides could have fit into the Whirlwind spot (with a little overflow), the Riverview version we are building will appear to completely fill the plot. I don't want you to look silly to others, based on my say-so, so I wish to provide you with some ammo in case this apparent anomaly is called into question.

Consider the business end of the ride - the twisty trough. That part is physically very small. On the EPB ride, most of the footprint was taken up by the twisty trough. On the KG and Riverview (and Coney version), there is an additional lift prior to the twisty track. I have chosen to beef up this section in an effort to lengthen the ride and provide an increase in perceived value for our patrons.

Also, I sensed a defiency in the work area of both the original EBP and Riverview rides. The Riverview ride had a service area which was tucked in under other structure, but was designed for only the three car trains that were used at the Chicago Worlds Fair. The EBP service area was the second, unused track through the station. We will have three trains for KFT, and I wanted to be able to address them in and out of the work area in parallel, rather than serially as Bartlett's
designs commanded.

The enhanced pre-twisty section and enhanced work area dovetail with land which would have been worthless once we built the first Turns ride. Also, while I could see the need for a pair of EBP Turns rides - low capacity here - ther's a need for only a single RFT ride, becasue of the ability to send 10 passenger trains. I did not need to preserve real estate for the second ride, and have not done so.

This is all to better explain the circumstances to you and to equip you with additional facts should a Savage Of The Internet take you to task once it becomes apparent that the ride we are building would not allow enough room for a second copy.

John Fetterman
Knoebels Groves

I just wish they'd update the pictures. There has to be something to see by now. I'd take my own but I live 350 miles away and won't be back up there to visit my wife's family for a couple months!! The best news for me is that all four coasters are 42" height requirement. My daughter passed that just after the amusement season was ending last year and we only rode the High Speed Thrill Coaster. Now the fights will be who gets stuck with my 3 year old son while the other gets to ride! :) I'm sure we'll share...yeah...that's the ticket.... *** Edited 2/7/2006 5:06:21 PM UTC by LdScotsman***

Now we'll spend the next three months guessing where the Flying Frogs will be relocated! (It's the off-season!)

If time and my schedule allows, I might take a quick ride "up da grove" over the weekend to see what I can see. I'm curious myself to see what's happ'nin'

From what I heard they didn't do anything to the site since they poured the footers last week. I also heard they can't set anything on the footings for several weeks to let them cure. That could be why they are moving so slow. they could be building bents so once they can go they can stand lots of stuff very quickly.

I still didn't get down there to get pictures. Lazy the other week, Eastcoaster last weekend and I'm leaving for Kentucky this weekend so I won't get there for at least 2 weeks. On the bright side I will get plenty of pictures at Beech Bend! :)

As I understand it the park has been manufacturing the wood trough for some time now, long before the ride was announced. If this is indeed true vertical construction should go relatively quickly. It's not a huge ride!

mOOSH

This is a response we recieved:

"Thank you for your interest in Knoebels!

We removed the Whirlwind at the end of the 2004 season. We installed the Looper on part of the lot which opened around Labor Day 2005. We began construction of the Flying Turns on the same lot on January 20, 2006, but we did not progess further than that single day. Simply, we are not quite ready yet. We will release information/blueprints/artists conception when it is time.

Knoebels"

I got a paper listing the 2006 ride prices, and Flying Turns was listed under $2.

That's true, cpunk. It usually takes concrete about 28 days to cure properly.

Well, according to the website, it is $2 exactly.

I think "under $2" meant that the ride was listed under the category of $2 attractions, not that the price was slightly below two bucks.

Right, PhantomTails. The price of FT is $2.00.

Where'd that person go that was saying it's *expensive* to go to Knoebels'....LOL!

Manhattan Express once or Knoebels' Flying Turns six times, you make the call... ;)

The least expensive park has to be Knoebels. :)

Unless you pay per ride on a weekend and spend a normal day there...it gets expensive.

$2.00 Twister,
$1.80 Phoenix
$1.00 Skooters
$1.00 Flyers
$1.20 Haunted Mansion
$1.40 Fandango
$3.00 SkyRide
$0.80 Carousel
$1.00 Pioneer Train
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$13.20 Total

How many can only ride the Phoenix, Bumper Cars, and Flyers just once. You can probably ride all those rides in about 2 hours on any given weekend. Now lets say you spend 6 hours at Knoebels, $39.60. Basicly the same price as a days admission at any other park.

^

Sorry to be a pain in the ass, but Twister is $2.20 now.

you get the idea.

I don't care how much it costs. I will still be at Knoebels at least 3 days this season even though it takes me about 3 hours to get there.

Last season I beat the path to GAdv (a 45 min trip for me) too many times and only made it to Knoebels for PPP. I really missed Knoebels and this season I will rectify that mistake.