SLC question

Wednesday, January 15, 2003 11:47 AM
T2 is claimed as (barely) the first SLC in North America, in 1995. So, I assume it opened in April on the park's opening day (?), since Hangman opened 5/1/95. How many others opened around that time? Which of these had the same layout?

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Wednesday, January 15, 2003 11:58 AM
All SLC's have thh same layout sans some minor differences in heights and angles. There are two custom layout SLC's in the world. One having a helix at the end of the ride and one being completely unrealted to the layout of the other SLC's.

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Wednesday, January 15, 2003 12:24 PM
Well, kind of right, but there are actually four SLCs that have a helix at the end of them. There are also three custom SLCs, two of which are in China, and Odyssey in the UK.
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Wednesday, January 15, 2003 12:45 PM
I think most opened in 1997.

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Wednesday, January 15, 2003 12:53 PM

Only 3 opened in 1997, and one of them is for sale!

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Wednesday, January 15, 2003 4:40 PM
The SLC's with a helix are a model known as the SLC+.

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Wednesday, January 15, 2003 6:51 PM
Mind Eraser at SFA opened May 20th, 1995 according to RCDB.
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Wednesday, January 15, 2003 7:19 PM
Top Gun at Canada's Wonderland also opened in 1995, in late April...
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Thursday, January 16, 2003 12:30 AM

There are currently three kinds of SLC's. There's the standard SLC, like the ones mentioned above. There is the SLC+, which has an additional helix just before the brake run. And then there is the SLCX, or Extreme SLC, like the one in Fantasy Island.

The world's first SLC opened in May of 1994 in what was then Walibi Flevo (currently SF Holland). The improved version of this ride (second generation) was built in several American parks in 1995.

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Friday, January 24, 2003 12:08 PM
I already had mentioned some opening in 1995.
I forgot about rcdb's ability to show all of a type and sort by year, which shows 5 in the US in 1995, w/ the rest in '97 or later. So since there are no SLC+ or SLC Custom's in the US, all SLC's in the US have the same basic layout?
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Friday, January 24, 2003 12:42 PM
Nothing basic about it, they have the exact same layout.

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Saturday, January 25, 2003 7:15 PM
T2 opened first in the USA, after the one in Holland? which was the first. They both are identical I beleive, in construction, layout, and use 7 car trains. I belive 4 more opened in the USA in '95, However, they all have some track modifications after the first two. The first drop is slightly different and the ending, you can see the differences if you look at photos of T2 and compare to another SLC.

Also, the Great Noreaster has a few differences, but the layout is the same. First, the supports are different in several spots, to accomdate the location over the water park. Also, the station on the GNE is in a different location, it is where the transfer track is on the others. I rode Mind Eraser at AW, the Great Noreaster, and Top Gun at PCWo..all in '95. When the opened they were a littls smoother than they are now. The later ones though, in '97 on...were much smoother when they first opened. OF those in '95 the GNE was by FAR my favorite with its great seaside location, the intertwining with the flume ride and water slides is very cool, and it had taller supports!. Mind Eraster was ok too, but Top Gun seemed a little rougher and was lower to the gournd as well. Funny thing is that Mind Eraser at AW opened with 8 car trains, then in '99 along with the parks' convertions to Six Flags, 2 more cars were added. I actually think the 2 extra back cars improved the coaster slightly. I like the back car more now, seems slightly smoother and more intense.


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Saturday, January 25, 2003 7:20 PM
The one in Holland was first and it is the only one that is different. T2 and all the rest have the same layout. Different support placement on each model is a given.

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Saturday, January 25, 2003 11:42 PM
Ansley is quite correct, actually. The first SLC, El Condor at Six Flags Holland, and the first US SLC, T2 at Six Flags Kentucky Kingdom, do in fact have the same layout. It's somewhat hard to make out, since pics of T2's entire layout are hard to come by, but if you look closely you will notice that the final turn is situated under the first drop, as opposed to the modified layout that was unveiled shortly thereafter.

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Sunday, January 26, 2003 4:36 AM

Then are there three different phases? As the heartline loop is different and more elongated on El Condor. Which s what I belived was teh difference in the first place

I stand corrcted beliveing T2 was the same as the others. I have rode T2 and never noticed the difference.

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Sunday, February 2, 2003 4:55 PM
Vater, I don't see the differences you speak of. They look the same to me. Can you explain further?
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Monday, February 3, 2003 5:31 AM
There are differences between El Condor and T2, I can assure you that. Just take a close look at the supports. That's the main difference. But El Condor is a one of a kind design, the only first generation SLC.

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Monday, February 3, 2003 6:11 AM
*Looks closely* ...Hmm...yes, the supports are different--T2's are black, while El Condor's have a teal hue. The tracks are different colors, too.

Same layout, though! :)

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Monday, February 3, 2003 6:41 AM
Somehow, I don't think Six Flags would have liked to get an exact El Condor clone.. there where a lot of problems with El Condor. The back two coaches haven't been removed for nothing.

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Monday, February 3, 2003 6:43 AM
Hey guys

As far as i remember the differant SLC's are as follows

SLC+'s = Blue Tornado at Gardaland (Italy), Cobra At Ratanga Junction (South Africa), Jaguar at Isla Magica (Spain), Lethal Weapon at WBMW (Australia) and the one at Dream park in Egypt. Im sure theres another one i just can't remember off hand

Custom SLC's = Pusing Lagi at Jerudong Park (Brunei), Odyssey at Fantasy Island (UK), Shenlin at Happy Valley (China) there is also one that opened about a week ago at SAL in China which i belive is a clone of Pusing Lagi. so a custom clone :S lol

THere are also sutble differances in desings. Again of the top of my head. Mk: 1's (T2, El Condor) have the final turn under the first drop. and Mk: 2's (Vampire, Serial Thriller) and up have the final turn over the first drop. I have some good pictures that show this but my website appears to be down :( anyone know any other differences. i know the lift stairs have changed between models and there is a slight bit of re-profiling on the Great Noreaster but nothing else i can think of. Anyone?

Edit: sorry vater just read your post on the final turn :S ignore that then lol
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