Six flags Magic Mountain Flashback

^^ That's NOT my chain....but don't stop tugging... ;)

Nice timing, Greg, force me to edit my post why don'tcha... :)

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GregLeg said:
Bottom 3? Wow, you're generous. I have it dead last (out of 487 coasters, 382 of them steel).

Although I think this year when filling out Mitch's poll, it will have competition from Beech Bend's Looping Star...

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The only two below it are Morey's old RC-48 and SFKK's T2.

Beech Bend's Looping Star wasn't very bad at all to me. Maybe it was the solo ride? :)

RC-48 landed on "the list" for me as well....yikes that thing was atrocious.

Thank goodness it wasn't the worst thing I rode on that trip...*dishonorable mention* went to this: http://rcdb.com/ig233.htm?picture=1

http://www.geaugalaketoday.com/Steel_Venom_3.htm

Steel Venom was built (by Six Flags) on top of a wave pool... no problems there.

^ Again, you guys need to stop using other similar examples like that as a justification. Flashback's situation is isolated due to a past incident where it was deemed unsafe and a distraction to safety personnel in an area that requires a lot of that kind of attention.

And you're also comparing two coasters without similar noise pollution levels. An Intamin Impulse coaster and Magnum XL-200 is not as close to being as loud as B&M coaster, which is exactly how loud Flashback is.

http://database.*************.com/dbgallery/photos.php/ip_4405/six_flags_magic_mountain/roller_coasters/flashback3772.jpg

^ Replace the *'s with Thrill Network.

SFMM has to keep it standing for their 17 coaster count for they continue to feel special. Sadly no one else cares anymore.

I'm not arguing that it wasn't deemed "unsafe", but I do wonder by who, and under what authority.

You can claim excemption all you want, but coasters and waterparks have been neighbors for decades. *** Edited 10/31/2006 4:24:26 AM UTC by Fun***

Yes, but how many of those coasters that neighbor waterparks are box-beam coasters (mainly B&Ms and rides in their track style, like Flashback) that don't contain some sort of noise reduction? I can't think of any. I know some B&Ms do border waterparks, but they have noise-reducing material in them (i.e. Talon).

It's only standing to keep the coaster count up. I think that any park that has a SBNO on a coaster should automatically have there coaster count droped until that coaster is put back on line.

Only SBNO to keep coaster count up? That's gotta be one of the funniest things said in this thread.

Let's say you have a huge lawn and your lawnmower is broke. You have no money to fix it and you have no other means to cut the grass in your front yard. Each day the grass grows higher and higher and gets wilder and weedier. Sure, its an eyesore but until you have the money to get your lawnmower running your only choice is to let the lawn grow wild.

Now think of Flashback as your lawn.

The last thing Mark Shapiro cares about is coaster counts. Flashback is idle because there's no money to remove it, and the little staff the park has left is better used on coasters that people actually want to ride. The coaster count thing is *so* 2001. Who cares?

Considering SF's financial condition, if they don't sell the park, they'll have better luck peddling Flashback south of the border. The likelyhood of it ever running in the US, let MM is nil.

Why was it move to SFMM from SFGAM? And when did that happen?

I remember seeing the commercials for Z-Force when I visited relatives in Millwaukee. Never actually got to the park until two years before BMTR blessed us all. *** Edited 11/1/2006 2:20:25 AM UTC by WildThingNative***

It was first moved to SFOG and replaced by Iron Wolf at SFGAm.

At one time SF had a ride rotation program. They bought a half dozen different rides and would float them to the different parks every few years after the novelty wore off. Flashback was one of those rides. If I'm not mistaken MM is it's third installation.

Third is correct: SFGAm, SFOG, SFMM. If any of you don't have the Roller Coaster Database bookmarked you should? ;)

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Flashback is not the only coaster that can be taken down to make room for Shapiro's family focused attractions. Pscyclone probably would not be missed. And is Deja Vu any more reliable then it was when it was first built? That whole back area of the park could be reworked if the company was serious about working out some of the parks issues.

Hey, I was with you on Flashback and Psyclone, but don't deprive LA of The Big Blue and Green POS That's An Awesome Ride If You Actually Score A Lap.

Seriously if he wanted to do a complete revamp, and he doesn't coz they don't have money like that, they could take Viper, Psyclone, AND Flashback.

That said, I hope against hope they get FB running as I don't have the credit.

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rc-madness said:
And is Deja Vu any more reliable then it was when it was first built?

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Much to your surprise, yes it is. The only problem with this ride is the issue with capacity.

^^ What is so bad about Viper?

I thought it was a good Arrow looper and had some cool train stuff.

Also what is so bad about Psyclone, besides how rough it is. It is not so bad if you can take the pain. Psyclone is in my Top 10 wooden coasters.

P.S.-- I only have been on less than 10 wooden coasters. ;)

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