Six Flags & their Vekoma SLCs.

Friday, November 15, 2002 11:04 PM

I know all of the individual parks run their own web-sites and are all viewed through the same format by those that visit the site...

Now, why is it that some of the parks display specifications for their SLCs that are impossible? Six Flags Kentucky Kingdom has down for their T2 that it travels in excess of 60 miles-per-hour, and in that same information grid, it says the ride is 98-feet-tall. Can a 98' ride reach speeds of 60 miles-per-hour?! Then Worlds of Adventure's site lists their Serial Thriller at a reasonable 50 miles-per-hour at height of 100' (height is understandable as each SLC may be built on different terrain). Six Flags Elitch Gardens has 60+ miles-per-hour for their SLC. AstroWorld's Serial Thriller has 55 miles-per-hour. And the biggest BS is New England's SLC listed at 64 miles-per-hour! And how tall is is it listed? 100 feet! LOL a 100 foot-tall-ride hitting almost 65 milesperhour?

Remember not to bash the entire chain just because each of the individual park locations decide to stretch the facts on their own part of the site for the sake of making a ride look better than it really is.

Saturday, November 16, 2002 2:54 AM
Well I have heard all SLC's are 115 feet high and they go 50 mph.
Saturday, November 16, 2002 3:09 AM
Its just another example of SF parks stretching the truth. Same thing is happening on the site with S:TE, it is no longer the tallest coaster in the world, but it will be until something as fast as Dodonpa is built in the US and people know about it. As long as non-enthusiasts can't call SF's bluff then they can and will do it as much as they want.

SFNE Central- Online Six Flags New England Resource
Devoted Intamin Lover for Life!

Saturday, November 16, 2002 4:36 AM

Maybe they're using one of those spedometers like fisherman use... you know... you catch a 6 inch fish and it "was 12"...


*** This post was edited by du8die on 11/16/2002. ***

Saturday, November 16, 2002 9:15 AM

54 MPH is the theoretical max velocity for a 98' drop.

58.5 MPH for 115'.

You must be this dumb to ride Viper. -SFGAdv.

Saturday, November 16, 2002 9:21 AM
...unless they're LAUNCHING them down that first drop...;)
Saturday, November 16, 2002 9:42 AM

A 64 mph SLC, oh the horror!!

I am just imagining the headbanging and overall pain that would cause.

Saturday, November 16, 2002 9:43 AM

Rollergator: To hit 60 mph launched from a 100 foot drop you would have to go over the top at 25 mph. It would be fun and have great negative G's but no chain lift coaster goes at anything like that speed.

*** This post was edited by Jim Fisher on 11/16/2002. ***

Saturday, November 16, 2002 9:54 AM

The one at WOA says it has 7 inversions, what aload of crap.

ALL SLC'S HAVE 5!!!!!!!!!!!!

Saturday, November 16, 2002 10:46 AM

Jim, yeah I know (for now at least)....but who said anything about "in real life"...hey, "you may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one"....

If you remember when THAT was in my sig, you've been 'buzzing for a WHILE...;)

For those who have been around a LONG time, remember: the gator had some foresight (dreams, inspiration, whatever) on the Fishhook, and MagLev...that's why I love talking with the kids 'round hyeah, they'll be the ones delivering these rides to us when we're old and gray....and they'll have some GOOD ones for us....wa-hoooo!

Besides, DCA has an inclined LIM launch, and Hulk has an inclined tire-drive launch, so that's not even that "far out"...not that we'd even WANT to see a launched Vekoma would HAVE to be sponsored by Advil...

*** This post was edited by rollergator on 11/16/2002. ***

Saturday, November 16, 2002 1:34 PM

CoasterAndy said:

The one at WOA says it has 7 inversions, what aload of crap.

ALL SLC'S HAVE 5!!!!!!!!!!!!

SFOG initially ran a commercial for S:UF that claimed it had 8 inversions. Try 2! You'll find the same discrepancies among all Boomerangs as well. I think Wild Adventures claims their Boomerang at 60-65 MPH, when it is really only 48 MPH, I believe.

Sean, who was asked for ID when buying RCT2.
Nitro, Gemini, Laser, Ice, Thunder...The American Gladiators!
The only Coasterbuzz member with Ridgeline Racer in their Track Record.

Saturday, November 16, 2002 1:40 PM

I think its a conspiracy, Six Flags has something against all of the enthusiasts. That is why everything Six Flags does pisses off the enthusiast population. The one train operations, the inaccurate statistics on park websites, the neglect of the misfit parks... Damn, Six Flags and this whole conspiracy against the enthusiasts.

Sarcasm is fun, isn't it?

Big Bucks, No Whammies, and Stop.

Saturday, November 16, 2002 10:00 PM
Here's the biggest BS of them all, and I have never believed it. The Coney Island Cyclone is listed as going 60 mph with only an 85 foot drop at 58 degrees. Hehe, yeah sure, and my 1990 Ford Tempo goes 0-60 in 5 seconds : )
Saturday, November 16, 2002 10:48 PM
Come on guys we're talking about Six Flags here, the same company that says on their website X-Flight at WoA has 8 inversions! I'm sorry I only counted one. They must be considering flipping to face up or down an inversion and then in that case if I remember correctly, there is still only 6 or 7. They must be counting the "inversion" of laying the train down and standing it back up. Who knows?

Brent Haley
Cedar Point Gemini Crew '02

Sunday, November 17, 2002 1:14 AM

X-Flight (as sad as it may be) has more than one inversion, Brent. Calling the "flips" from laying to flying may be a stretch, but how can you not call the two successive inline twists inversions? I guess every coaster that features a twist or zero-G roll of some kind has been counting wrong if we're going to use that logic.

Dorney Park visits in 2002: 19

Sunday, November 17, 2002 2:04 AM
aahhh... just get rid of those Vekoma SLCs they're no good! (At least, after some years they just beat you up as hell)

*** This post was edited by superman on 11/17/2002. ***

Sunday, November 17, 2002 4:34 AM
SFWoA's SLC did not bang my head at all, and even if it did, it has these GIGANTIC retraint pads that are VERY cushy. I love SFWoA's SLC. (With 7 or 5 inversions :) )

I prefer the pears in the heavy syrup. They're just good.

Sunday, November 17, 2002 7:27 AM

You won't really be too concerned with head banging if your restraint fails to stay locked during the ride,so far on SFA's Mind eraser I've had to deal with the restraint opening up on me three times now & on both trains.

These rides are just an accident waiting to happen & they should be shut down & removed from the parks asap,or have an extra safety belt installed on the rings on each side of the seat,perhaps they should re-design the trains to use a pnuematic locking system like Intamin uses in place of the ratcheting system to lock the restraints.

Sunday, November 17, 2002 10:09 AM
Just a thought! SFKK Vekoma SLC only has seven seats per train, could be why is goes faster, its lighter. All the others have 10 seats per train! but as for the others running faster, than each other, I have no idea!
Sunday, November 17, 2002 10:43 AM

let's face it folks, they're NOT gonna just "disappear"....not really feasible economically.

"Oh, yeah, let's just replace it with a Talon clone, same basic ride but SO much better". How long do ya figure before THIS exec is out looking for work? Let's just say a lap on Dragster would take longer....

but we live in the *Fer Real World* (there actually IS a Public-Access show here with that name)...a more "responsible" idea might be to make very sure the track is kept in tip-top condition, and to do SOMETHING to make the trains run better...(for some "simple" hints, look to Dave's descriptions of how the Vekoma inverts *attach* differently than the Beemers)...

Those *quiet types*, they can scare ya with their knowledge of how stuff works...having people like me around just helps with "and how can we make it BETTER, cheaply"...;)


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