Shanghai Disneyland will close in effort to contain coronavirus

wahoo skipper said:

RCMAC said:

I see where wahoo skipper started the whole aquatrax thing. I’ve always wondered who to blame.

Wait.....what?

There you are, maybe the 4th or 5th post in. Talkin bout that Intamin Aqua Trax being a nice replacement for a water ride...
lol.

Ah, ok. I guess I was just speculating at that time. Was that the speculation for what would become Shoot the Rapids? If so, I stand by what I said and it WOULD have been better than what we got with Shoot the Rapids.

Some interesting updates from the CDC on Monday:

• If you have been in close contact (within 6 feet) of a person with a COVID-19 infection for at least 15 minutes but do not have symptoms
  • You do not necessarily need a test unless you are a vulnerable individual or your health care provider or State or local public health officials recommend you take one.
• If you do not have COVID-19 symptoms and have not been in close contact with someone known to have a COVID-19 infection
  • You do not need a test.
• If you are in a high COVID-19 transmission area and have attended a public or private gathering of more than 10 people (without widespread mask wearing or physical distancing)
  • You do not necessarily need a test unless you are a vulnerable individual or your health care provider or State or local public health officials recommend you take one.

This is a pretty big deal. There are a lot of things that you can infer from this, most of which are overwhelmingly positive.

If you were following the news completely, you'd observe that it's a big deal for all the wrong reasons. This revised guidance isn't driven by science, it's driven by pressure from the White House. It's wholly absurd to suggest you can monitor and limit community spread without testing for a virus that doesn't always present symptoms.

The theme of the new guidelines is less testing. Trump has made it very clear that he wants less testing because more testing makes the numbers look bad. Actually, as he puts it, more testing "gets your more cases." He's already managed the almost Herculean feats of politicizing the weather and the mail. Politicizing the CDC is something he can do in his sleep.

I hate being a pessimist but I have seen nothing that would make me think we aren't in for another round of difficult news late Fall/Winter. The slow down of testing will add to that but I think it was coming either way because the lack of urgency on the national level is causing too many people/places to let their guard down.

It is incredible to think that people are still defending his handling of this. Like, he's almost verbatim saying, "I don't care if more people die, as long as I look good."

The best is yet to come, though, right?

I enjoyed this video:

https://twitter.com/MotherJones/status/1298089911954714624?s=20

C.D.C. Tells States How to Prepare for Covid-19 Vaccine by Early November

"The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has notified public health officials in all 50 states and five large cities to prepare to distribute a coronavirus vaccine to health care workers and other high-risk groups as soon as late October or early November.

Although it’s possible that some promising preliminary data may emerge by the end of October, experts are skeptical."

Ugh, the CDC has been hijacked. If you look at the reporting around the two apparent companies, Moderna and Pfizer, both have targeted their trials wrapping late October, with meaningful data by Christmas. I get why people are skeptical. The only way you get the vaccine out that quickly is if you start manufacturing it in volume before the trial ends, and the FDA is convinced you have valid data that does in fact show efficacy and safety. I hope it's all true, but if people are already skeptical of the vaccines, what happens if they rush to market and there's some horrible side effect?

I'd be perfectly happy if the vaccines roll out first quarter next year. If my kid can go to school and I can sit in a theater and watch a show, that's a good indication that we're there.

I am pretty sure manufacturing the US backed vaccine candidates entering phase 3 was part of operation warp speed. Also, it's likely the first round of vaccines will roll out to healthcare workers so who knows when it will be ready for the GP.

eightdotthree said:

Also, it's likely the first round of vaccines will roll out to healthcare workers so who knows when it will be ready for the GP.

The article states:

"The guidance noted that health care professionals, including long-term care employees, would be among the first to receive the product, along with other essential workers and national security employees. People 65 or older, as well as Native Americans and those who are from “racial and ethnic minority populations” or incarcerated — all communities known to be at greater risk of contracting the virus and experiencing severe disease — were also prioritized in the documents.

That’s a positive development, “so it doesn’t just all wind up in high-income, affluent suburbs,” said Dr. Cedric Dark, an emergency medicine physician at Baylor College of Medicine in Texas."

It also mentions Pfizer would have 2 million doses availble in that time frame and Moderna could have 1 million. So if this rolled out that quickly with both being approved, 1% of the population (with priority defined above) could have access nearly immediately.

Yeah, 1% is a pretty strange definition of "available." 😀 I wonder if the Gates Foundation contribution to manufacturing capacity worked out. Or, you know, people are worried about their chip implants.

I'm not a consipracy theorist and I say this mostly facetiously, but I can't help notice they're ensuring a rushed, potentially not properly vetted vaccine makes it way to the elderly and minorities first with intentions of keeping it out of high-income, affluent suburbs.

Well "they" definitely don't want the minorities, but they need the old racists in their corner.

Article? What article? :)

There was always a group that said this would all be over when the election is over. This tentative timeline for a vaccine lines up quite nicely with that.

Who would think that having a vaccine available for about 1% of the population means that anything is "over"?

The best people. Ask anybody.

The assessment from people Ars talked to pretty much lines up with what I was suggesting:

https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/09/pre-election-vaccination-pl...-meddling/