SFWOA Hyper: Fact or Fiction?
Haha, Make me another to enjoy WoA over CP ;)
Really, I like all parks for differant reasons.. I hate people who try to convince *cough* Kick The Sky *cough* that *insert park here* is better then *insert park here*. Its annoying... You make it sound like they should bow down to you and say there sorry for having more fun at WoA then CP. Oh god, shut up.
*back on topic*
Yea, the coaster is probley coming alright, all they need is a big crowd pleaser like SROS... A coaster where people are clapping when they hit that brakerun.. Coasters like Nitro, MF, SROS, and yes, and even SUE is a good crowd pleaser. So I think if they make this ride like how they did ROS at SFNE, it will be nice.
-----------------
NITRO ~ The most EXPLOSIVE coaster on the planet!
Im not opinionated, im just always RIGHT!
-----------------
Lake Compounce-So Fresh and So Clean Clean
I agree that once the novelty of the gimmick coaster wears off(as great as it might be), I'm MUCH more likely to run back to the more traditional hypercoaster. Airtime and mist filled tunnels please!
I'm keeping my fingers crossed. :)
-----------------
"Escuse me, can you tell me where the heck the Mystery Lodge is"?
Legendary said:
...Burger King fries are Godly...
Exactly, and frankly I don't understand why people hate BK fries. Why they prefer McDonald's "grease in a stick" over BK's fries is beyond me. And get this... BK's fries even use potatoes! After seeing those damn hollow fries at McDonald's, I'm convinced they deep fry air pockets...
...but fries are bad for you anyway, and SFWoA will probably get that hyper. With Cedar Point adding yet another toy to their skyline, how the hell could they not?
-----------------
Thank You for challenging TOS: The Ride. We hope you enjoy the rest of your day, here at Coasterbuzz.
*** This post was edited by BullGuy on 8/30/2002. ***
BullGuy - There's a lot of really well thought out and well written explanations as to why the hell SFWoA should not/could not add that hyper in this thread.
chris - Pulling for the hyper cause it's a day trip from Mom and Dad's house.
-----------------
"The perfect machine, you seemed to be, when I built you up in my mind..." - Reverend Jon Autry
Well if they do add a hyper next year, sfwoa should gut out the mission bermuda triangle ride , keep the themeing and rename the coaster Area51 . ooohhhh the implacations...LOL
-----------------
You really need to get some more BRAN in your diet
OutKast said:
I guess it's illegal to say you enjoy SFWOA around here. (snippet) I think I'll think for myself thank you very much.
Illegal, nah...unpopular, perhaps....I think it's safe to say that if it really bothers someone whether people agree with them, they need some...dare I say, maturity.....that's why I "snippeted"...the finale to your post is perfect...thanks!
But seriously, what AMAZES me isn't that people like SFWoA...(heck , we had a great time)...but that people like those Olestra-soaked potatoes....ach! Makes me queasier than the Dutch WonderHouse...
Where is this list of Six Flags parks getting new attactions next year??
-----------------
Long live Six Flags Astroworld!! Ok, you can all laugh now...
OK Burger Kings fries are teh greatest ever if you consider your average run of the mill French Fry. But Arby's Curly Fries beat them with a gigantic stick.
Anyway, I have been to SFWOA twice this year and have had a great time both times. I don't see why the park is bashed so bad. It's not CP but CP isn't Hershey or Knoebels either.
-----------------
The Beast and Night, They go together like Peanut Butter and Jelly
I have to say that I have been to (and enjoyed) both parks, and although I prefer Cedar Point, I can't see why all of you are so eager to bash WOA. I understand (and agree with) your gripes on customer service and cleanliness, but talk to the department at the park, your whining accomplishes nothing here. I thought people went to amusement parks to enjoy them, not b**** about them. Write the park a letter, and be done with it. Life's too short for this BS. Anyway, I believe WOA will get a hypercoaster and CP will get a 400 ft + tall rocket coaster. And both will be great additions to the industry, even if CP's blows WOA's out of the water (which it probably will).
-----------------
105 coasters, and the Cyclone still tops 'em all.
CycloneWacko,
Don't say it will blow it out of the water just yet. Look at the latest hypers Six Flags has built! Goliath at SFH looks like the one of the greatest rides every built. So don't judge just yet until we see some layouts or something, at least.
-----------------
NITRO ~ The most EXPLOSIVE coaster on the planet!
Im not opinionated, im just always RIGHT!
Man, I didnt think I would get hacked to pieces like I would about my comment regarding HurricaneGeauga. I wasnt trying to start a CP/WOA war, I was meerly pointing out that he is such a fanboy that little of what he has said makes much sense in regards to issues surrounding CP or WOA.
I dont hate WOA. I think it is crappy and needs a lot of work but I dont hate it. I also think that the park needs to look to it's other issues before building a huge hyper coaster. I think that those issues are what keeps me from revisiting the park. Customer service and ride operations are their biggest problems right now along with unreasonable and quickly changing policies.(such as the early ride closure rules). WOA has the potential to become a great park, IMHO. They have an excellent ride collection with some of their coasters being much more thrilling than their nearest neighbor. It is just the rest of the experience that was flat.
-----------------
Bob Hansen
A proud CoasterBuzz Member
Operation Wicked Twister - Goal: Lose 50 lbs by next season to ride it! (updates soon)
Millenium Force Maniac said:
"Why does everyone seem to think that Cedar Point's lines are grossly long, including Phantom Lost. Come on, if you guys decide to go on insanely packed days (a Saturday in August) why then, you sure are going to get five rides in a day. Go on a weekday in August, know what to ride when, or heck, you don't even have to do that, and you'll still ride just about every coaster, if not all of them, with a couple of rerides"
Y'all can call me selfish, dumb, ignorant and even unreasonable but for *me*, when I'm a park *guest* (and I use the term loosely) it doesnt make a damn bit of difference if I have to wait an hour for a ride because there are 70,000 people in the park or because the ride op is off in a corner masturbating. In either case, one hour of my time allotted to the park is gone.
It is particularly furstrating at the larger parks (CP, SFGAm, SFGADv...) because there are so many attractions to be had. The unfortunate reality is that most people can only attend parks on so-called "peak" days. Moreover, if it's not a park one is familiar with, it is quite likely that they will NOT *know* the park well enough to say which attractions have the minimal waits at certain times.
Now do not take the above as me condoning undermanned attractions. I commend the parks that run their capacity like they're supposed to. Max capacity at ALL times is THE ideal. But in the same vein, I as "Mr. One-Time Guest" would rather run into a park on a day with one train op and 20-25min waits than a packed park *hustling* with 3 train ops and hour waits.
But I always go to (non-home) parks expecting to wait an hour for all the coasters anyway.....
jeremy
-------------
"To get inside this head of mine, would take a monkey-wrench, and a lot of wine" Res How I Do
1. SFI hasn't ever been to keen on capital improvements for underpreforming parks.
2. WOA/GLP has always waited until DEC or JAN to make any sort of anouncements. And it was never to wait and see what the point was up to.
3. The park is budgeted based on projections. Since actual attendance is WAAAAAAAY off of the projected it stands to reason that the park is losing its pants this year. After all they weren't able to save the sinking ship in 2001. It's not like the management there knows how to control costs or spending.
2Hostyl said:
Y'all can call me selfish, dumb, ignorant and even unreasonable but for *me*, when I'm a park *guest* (and I use the term loosely) it doesnt make a damn bit of difference if I have to wait an hour for a ride because there are 70,000 people in the park or because the ride op is off in a corner masturbating. In either case, one hour of my time allotted to the park is gone.
See, there's no way I can agree with everybody all the time (just wouldn't be ME), and I'm gonna have to say there is a HUGE difference between these two situations in my opinion....
Let's just call them Case #1 and Case #2 to bypass any *unpleasantries* so specifically mentioned....;)...LOL. Anyhow, on to our main feature...why I feel the two are COMPLETELY different situations...C
Case #1, high volume, relatively fast-moving lines...let's view this as the standard triple-training that I have often experienced at a certain CF park whose identity will remain protected for our purposes...ride ops are busting their butts, the line keeps moving, meaning less of an opportunity (anmd less incentive) for line-jumping....plus, it's harder to "hold a place" in line. Plus, if I enter the queue with say, a food item or a beverage (NOT an uncommon occurrence), I'll be passing by a trash receptacle very shortly...hmm, that's handy, less trash to sweep up, fewer guests thinking "gee, this queue is DISGUSTING". Add in that, by not sitting around, the time SEEMS shorter....and it does...maybe it has something to do with seeing trainloads of screaming riders race by the queue, hands in the air....maybe it's just that there may be different theming items to look at while the line moves. One reason for sure is that I see ops busting their @$$3$ to get riders in and out...and I feel better about the ops, the park, the ride, everything....
Now, on to park #2....another CF park I visited this year (for the first time)....LOW capacity operations, regardless of crowd, single-training on every coaster (save of course, the mouse)....waits SEEM longer when you're sitting around...and then, "idle hands are the devil's plaything" idea...if you have 20 people waiting in line, and the line isn't moving, why not...a) stick change to the wall using gum - Jaguar!, anyone, b) carve your name, perhaps that of your sweetie, into the nearest wooden/plastic surface or c) try and break/heist theming items.....heck, the line's not going anywhere, gotta do SOMETHING... There's also what we have determined is the "special needs effect"....the longer someone waits for the ride, the more needs/requests/questions/comments they'll have....and that effect is influenced not by the ACTUAL waiting time, but the PERCEIVED waiting time...then let me throw in the *kicker*...wooden coasters run better WARM...when there's been trains cycling.....
I'm nopt saying I expect five minute waits all the time, that's NOT the point....the point is that by maintaining CAPACITY, you save the park trash, vandalism, line-jumping, angry guests, irritated ops dealing with "PiA's", etc. By giving the guests "perceived value", they LOVE your park, come back, recommend the park to others, buy your souvenirs (free advertising, anyone), and then you have folks saying "you're just a CP ho"....well, I'll say that if I'm gonna spend an hour in line, I'd prefer to spend it in line for a ride the quality of MF in a sea of people - or get 10 rides on Gemini...:)...than I would waiting behind less than 200 schoolkids impatient for a single ride on an Arrow corkscrew at some *unnamed* CF park in Michigan....
*the names were not changed, and did not protect the innocent*
My family and I have been to both parks this summer and like both equally.......they are great parks and offer different experiences....with that being said I really believe SFWOA really needs to worry about the filthy bathrooms before they should even remotely consider building a new coaster.......I mean, how can you expect people to spend money in your park when the urinals are plugged up and overflowing with urine all over the floors.
*** This post was edited by gedio on 9/6/2002. ***
Millenium Force Maniac said:
"Why does everyone seem to think that Cedar Point's lines are grossly long, including Phantom Lost. Come on, if you guys decide to go on insanely packed days (a Saturday in August) why then, you sure are going to get five rides in a day. Go on a weekday in August, know what to ride when, or heck, you don't even have to do that, and you'll still ride just about every coaster, if not all of them, with a couple of rerides. You can't blame a park that is popular for a reason. Heck, sometimes I don't mind waiting an extra five or ten minutes in line when I know the park is doing all they can to make the line short, as compared to some other parks that don't."
I visit the park at least once a year, never on weekends. I've been there June, July, August, and October and have only once have ran into decent wait times. Although it was my fault for going the day after the 4th of July, but I was coming back from MI so I decided to stop;).
I always feel rushed at CP, I can't just sit back and relax.
-------------
1.Phantom's Revenge 2.Thunderbolt 3.Shivering Timbers 4.Montu 5.Mega Zeph
*** This post was edited by PhantomLost on 9/6/2002. ***
You must be logged in to post
