SFOG's Ninja

Monday, April 15, 2002 11:03 AM
Looking at Ninja, I would think it's an Arrow coaster. How can one tell it's a Vekoma (no Arrow/Vekoma jokes please :) )?

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Monday, April 15, 2002 11:05 AM
You can tell by the track. Squared off brackets is the tale-tell sign I believe.

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Monday, April 15, 2002 11:07 AM
i agree, vekoma and arrow corkscrew coasters are very alike with track style, wheel assembly etc. the only way i can tell them apart just by looking at them is that the track ties are ever so slightly different. the vekoma ones tend to look slightly more square than arrow ones.
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Monday, April 15, 2002 11:07 AM

All in all, I think Vekoma's track is a bit beefier.

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Monday, April 15, 2002 11:14 AM
The only coaster at SFoG I have no desire to ride again....:(. Relocated from Dinosaur Beach, where it ran as Kamikaze...made me fell like I was the one on a suicide mission...ouch!

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Monday, April 15, 2002 11:14 AM

Also, the track ties or braces seem to be much closer together on Vekomas and have a triangluar plate at the bottom corner of the "U" shape.

Shaggy

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Shaggy
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Monday, April 15, 2002 11:28 AM
I was under the impression that the differences between standard Arrow track and standard Vekoma track (not including Arrow's X and Vekoma's double-spined stuff) is limited to the sections where the track pieces join together? As far as I know, they both feature squared-off, right-angle track ties.
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Monday, April 15, 2002 11:40 AM

The trains are a bit different also. They seem more 'rugged' than the Arrow versions.

I know some folks don't like Ninja but I have never had a problem riding it.

-Sean

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Monday, April 15, 2002 11:48 AM
http://www.coasterbuzz.com/features/trackspotting101/
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Monday, April 15, 2002 11:49 AM
Yep, the U brackets look the same to me:

http://www.coastergallery.com/2000/pki58.html
http://www.rcdb.com/installationgallery40.htm?Picture=2 (most close up pic I could find)

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Monday, April 15, 2002 11:57 AM
The trains on Ninja are Arrow trains, they say Arrow all over them and I must be crazy but I loved this coaster, craziest headchoppers ever and I thought it was just as smooth as your average Megalooper. The spaghetti bowl layout is very cool I must say.

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Monday, April 15, 2002 12:01 PM
As Bill the Cat says, "Ack."

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Monday, April 15, 2002 12:14 PM
....and I did, chris...;)
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Monday, April 15, 2002 1:44 PM
You can also look at the trains themselves. They say "Vekoma" on them :)
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Monday, April 15, 2002 2:13 PM
Like I just said the trains say ARROW on them as they are Arrow trains on a vekoma coaster.

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Monday, April 15, 2002 2:32 PM

Arrow's brackets slant out and then go p to the rails but on Venkoma's brackets tend to go straight up to the rail.

I usually don't compare the track, but the layouts. Arrow tends to be straight to the point with the not all the complax transitions. Vekoma "tries" to be insanely twisted which in terms can bring their rides to a downfall because they're not al that good with transitions. Vekoma needs to also stop manufactering American coasters out of Japan, their designing the trains to fit their standards and the ride is terrible on us. Kamikaze, though sold and constructed by Vekoma, was actually made by Meisho(I believe they did the designing as well), that Kamikaze is now your Ninja. There are some wonderful Vekoma loopers though like the Kumodo Dragon and French Revolution.

From what I told you, tell me who built this?

(No Cheating!)

*** This post was edited by Vertigo on 4/15/2002. ***

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Monday, April 15, 2002 2:35 PM

MagnumForce,

I must have been mistaken then because I could have sworn I saw the Vekoma logo on them someplace I guess not?

-Sean.

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Monday, April 15, 2002 2:41 PM
I heard that Arrow's guide wheels rest on the outside of the rail, where Vekoma's run on the inside. Check this out to verify it.
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Monday, April 15, 2002 3:22 PM
I really enjoyed French Revolution. Lotte World is a nice little park, half indoors and half out, complete with a castle and if you got bored at the park there was always 10 floors of shopping!! I still miss the crab cakes from grocery store in the basement.

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Monday, April 15, 2002 4:00 PM

Nope says arrow on all the wheels and such. Also I always thought Meisho made the rides and Vekoma designed them? That is the way Moonsault Scramble was I think.

And dangit Kneemeister there is a coaster I didn't even know you rode that I am sure I will never get a chance to ride. ;)

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