SFA 2002?
Look everyone...I'd *love* to be wrong. I'd love to say that SFA is getting a huge B&M *something* or any new coaster for 2002. But everyone I've talked to who normally knows what coaster is going where has not said anything about SFA. In the past few years you got Batwing, Superman, Two-Face, Joker's Jinx, and Roar. Not too shabby! So the park takes a year or two off before adding another one...big deal! Its certainly not the end of the world and with all the other parks nearby you have to choose from IMHO complaining about SFA makes you seem like big crybabies!
End rant.
Let's see SFA get everything they have working correctly first. They had an employee shortage last year, and a new ride won't make that situation any better, if they have the same problem this year.
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Overall I'm not expecting anything big. Has anyone heard an announcement date. In October PR was saying that ny announcement would be after the first of the year. I'm guessing that there will be some sort of announcement this month or next even if it is just for revised shows.
Va-coaster. A lot of the plantings are there in Gotham, they just need time to grow up. Gotham was an open field so it didn't start out with any trees. Still, the grass in Gotham looks a lot better than the "parking lot" scenery that you find under a lot of coasters
*** This post was edited by Jim Fisher on 1/15/2002. ***
Attendance was good last year. I know the park set a record for one day attendance, and I suspect that they set a record for annual attendance, especially with the warm weather and resulting big crowds for FrightFest. However, with the down turn in the economy and SF's debt burden I'm not expecting much capital investment this year.
Va-coaster said:
They should work on scenery issues around Gotham, looks like the futuristic city went broke if you ask me, but really I dont pay attention to the scenery I just ride, but when you look at pictures online its so sad. But do you think Six Flags America could add something new ride to the list of plans for the future, from the new 4D coaster, and all the other rides out there waiting for a debut. I think its about time that SFA gets a custom ride instead of a world class Clone. Most of them are clones, JJ, S:ROS, Two Face, Mind Eraser, Roar.ROAR is not a CLONE if you've ridden both you would know there are several differences.
As far as Gotham City goes, you can blame DC Comics for allowing as little as they did to call the area Gotham City. (I sent a e-mail to DCComics asking them to consider changing the entrance sign to Superhero Adventures, like at SFNE. Got no response) One needs to remember when it comes to Liscensed theming like Batmen or Bugs Bunny, Six Flags goes strictly by what is allowed by Warner Brothers or DC Comics.
SAM
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Some of you have been wringing your hands over SFA 2002 since that awful yellow thing down in the hole behind ROS was opened. I do know one thing: The stand up rumor is just about as old as rumor's get (save for maybe Magnum sinking and being sold to PKI or a park in Japan.) I have no idea if SFA will ever get a standup, but many sources predicted it for 99, 00, 01, and 02 and it still hasn't happened yet. What are they waiting for, hm?
If anything, the park needs to add more shade, more bathrooms, and more people to pick up trash. The next thing they need to do is SOMETHING to fix the layout, because right now, the baffling walk to Batwing is completely laughable. To get to Batwing is a TREK just from the pathway under Wild One, and of course its a dead end, and of course there is nothing much on the way. I have no idea how they are going to fix it, but right now, SFA definately has the worst layout of any major park I have been to.
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Intamin Fan said:
Ravenguy98, that's just ridiculous. There's is obviously much on the way to Batwing. I count 3 flat rides, 1 Skycoaster, 1 stunt show, Joker's Jinx, and Superman Ride of Steel. I can think of many other parks with large areas without shade, including Cedar Point and Hersheypark. Sorry if you're baffled by the walk to Batwing. It's really not that hard. And by the way, the word is spelled "DEFINITELY".
1. I was mainly talking about the walk from ROS to Batwing, which is the most poorly planned debacle I have ever seen at a park. Its almost like they said "OK! Lets make the layout of this park as awful as possible" and stuck a coaster in the middle of no where, and then built a path to it. Its ridiculous.
2. Personally, I think CP and Hershey have plenty of shade, but if you disagree, fine. That still doesn't change the fact that SFA needs more of it. Sorry.
3. I'm baffled as to why the park chose to place Batwing where they did, and why they thought it was a good desicion to place a very lengthy dead end path at the far end of the park. C'mon, do you honestly think it was a good idea yourself?
4. Please, attcking someone's grammar/spelling just reflects your lack of any real argument. If you want to discuss something, lets not discuss stuff like that. If my grammar/spelling were consitently awful, then it would be a different story, but its not, so don't worry about it. If everybody here dissected everyone else's spelling here, it wouldn't be a very interesting place, would it?
2) The newer areas of Hershey park are definitely short on shade. Just like SFA they are planting trees, and we will have to wait for them to grow. Certain areas of CP are only so so on shade. Not that big a deal.
3) This is really a repeat of item 1. By the way a number of the posters are SFA regulars, and there are indications that the park intends to eventually tie the Gotham city are over to Coyote Creek forming a second loop. I suspect that SFA will continue to expand, filling in this area for the next decade or more. It will take time, especially with the economy slow.
4) No comment.
5) Not all of the parks in you area are a model of perfect layout. One of them has a major road in the middle of it forcing everyone to cross it on a single, elevated bridge which is rough for the handicapped to climb. But then all parks have to deal with many constraints.
*** This post was edited by Jim Fisher on 1/18/2002. ***
And even when you do have a perfectly circular layout (SFGAm) people *still* complain (WAAH! Bring back the covered path...crybabies!)
jeremy
--who recalls a saying from hi mom about not pleasing everybody...
Cedar Point-From the entrance down the long midway, there's no shade. I've never seen so many rednecks in all my life, and I'm not talking about the people on Jerry Springer
There is obviously so much land surrounding Batwing that other rides will pop up around it. A wild mouse would fit in between Batwing and ROS. Did you happen to notice the land clearing around ROS and the future pathway off of the Batwing pathway? There will be more development back there some day.
My problem with you picking on the park is this:
a) SFA is controlled by Six Flags Corporation. They don't make their own decisions.
b) Like my family, I can pick on my homepark all I want, but if you do, you're looking for a fight
c) The walk to Batwing is not a big deal because there are trees surrounding the ride, and a little exercise never killed anyone. I will agree that a bathroom should be added though.
Lastly, the reason I corrected your misspelling is because it is a big pet peeve of mine. More than 1/2 of the people on this site can't spell definitely, a word that is elementary.
*** This post was edited by Intamin Fan on 1/19/2002. ***
That might be the most ignorant coaster related post that I have ever seen...but anyway, I don't care how "in the know" people are, or how many "sources" someone has. NOTHING...no wait...NOTHING is official until the park in question formally announces it. Sam Marks could tell you that SFA is getting a super mega ultra double hyper twisting stand up invert, and its a RUMOR! When SFA announces, THATS when i'll listen. (No offense meant Sam). Just to clarify, SFA is 40 minutes away from me, so i would call it 1 of my "home parks" along with PKD and BGW.
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*** This post was edited by Number 9 on 1/19/2002. ***
The fact that perhaps CP or HP need more shade in your opinion doesn't change the fact SFA needs it as well. The same goes for the layout. Just because SFKK has a bad layout, what does that have to do with SFA? The layout of SFA is still awful. Just pointing out other parks' weaknesses in no way defends SFA's, or makes SFA's any better. I mean, if parks went by that attitude, then we wouldn't have any good parks whatsoever. Cedar Point could say "Oh, all the rides at SFEG are lame, why do we need to build better coasters?" Its not an unfair comparison, especially since you are mentioning parks miles and miles away from eachother. (Ok, well, Hershey and SFA may be in some of the same market, but SFA and CP aren't.)
The fact the people think that they will eventually loop the path around to Coyote Creek or that people "have sources" that say the same thing means nothing, at this point. The fact is that for the time being, the layout is still laughable, and from my standpoint, poorly planned, at this time. The average park goer isn't going to be walking around thinking "man, they really should have planned this better" but the less that people have to walk from attraction to attraction, they happier they are going to be at the end of the day. Its something that I wish more parks had taken a cue from Disney in.
I'm not picking on SFA, I'm just expressing my opinion. I think the park has some fantastic rides, but until some of these things are changed, it always is going to be a sub par park. There are a million things, many very similar to SFWOA's problems, that could be easily fixed, besides the odd layout. How about the general cleanliness of the park? How about the slow ride ops? How about the frequent one train operation on the signature rides? Last time I visited, at the peak of the summer, Roar was running one train, Batwing was running one train, ROS was running one train, and Wild One was closed. I think JJ was as well, but I'm not sure. I hope they do loop the path all the way around to Coyote Creek, but if the park is poorly operated, bottom line, its still poorly operated.
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