SFA 10/18 OMG - CoasterBuzz

coasterguts said:
BATWING FAN SFA said: That's not SFA's fault for it being down though.
What do you know about it being down?

Actually Iron Eagle has run most of the year, but in august it had a major part fail (I believe its a motor or something major) the ride will be fixed, it's very popular.

Considering that Vekoma went belly up, there's little they'll do to fix batwing, at least the park is doing what it can. BTW while one train runs the other is usually being fixed

I'd say manufacturers selling crap/SF buying it is the #1 problem in the chain.

SAM

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never met a coaster I didn't ride (except Junior Geminii) :(

Funny how almost the same exact original post was posted on R.R.C. this afternoon.

There's something they can do to get Batwing fixed,they can simply remove it in favor of a more reliable coaster from B&M.

I agree with you Coasterguts: it's sad to see Batwing's 3rd train(what's left of it) sitting there being stripped of nearly all of it's parts just to fix the other trains,I assume that once they exhaust their spare parts supply for the trains that the ride will just go down indefinitely.

BATWING FAN SFA said: I agree with you Coasterguts: it's sad to see Batwing's 3rd train(what's left of it) sitting there being stripped of nearly all of it's parts just to fix the other trains,I assume that once they exhaust their spare parts supply for the trains that the ride will just go down indefinitely.

I truly wish you'd change your name here. You're so horribly negative about BATWING, and SFA that maybe BATWING SFA NEMESIS would be more appropriate

Did you ever think that maybe they're doing the best they can under the circumstances? It's not like they have a magic wand to fix things, it takes money and manpower. True Batwing runs one train, and an operatonal train might be sitting in the opposite loading area un used. But what you're not giving them credit for is always having that one train running, rather than running both till they break and then simply closing the ride til there's time to fix the train.

SAM
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never met a coaster I didn't ride (except Junior Geminii) :(

Iron Eagle will be fixed in the off-season. How many times do I have to type that? I doubt Zamperla has a spare Rotoshake motor just sitting around awaiting shipment. Why do you think flat rides cost upwards of $2 million dollars? When I suggested to someone that they get a replacement ride from Zamperla instead of fixing IE, I was told "We don't want anymore of their crap".

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Did anyone ever bother trying out the seats on the KMG Tango? And if so, were they male?

Iron Eagle will be fixed in the off-season. How many times do I have to type that? I doubt Zamperla has a spare Rotoshake motor just sitting around awaiting shipment. Why do you think flat rides cost upwards of $2 million dollars? When I suggested to someone that they get a replacement ride from Zamperla instead of fixing IE, I was told "We don't want anymore of their crap".

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Did anyone ever bother trying out the seats on the KMG Tango? And if so, were they male?

Intamin Fan said:
Iron Eagle will be fixed in the off-season. How many times do I have to type that? I doubt Zamperla has a spare Rotoshake motor just sitting around awaiting shipment. Why do you think flat rides cost upwards of $2 million dollars? When I suggested to someone that they get a replacement ride from Zamperla instead of fixing IE, I was told "We don't want anymore of their crap".

I-Fan, I read your posts about Iron Eagle. That is something to consider. However, Zamperla should be looking at the age of their fleet and talking with parks to get an idea if they are going to keep their rides or dump them in the near future. Every ride part should have a life expectancy on it, Zamperla should have an idea when the life expectancy of these rides is going to be reached. So if a motor has a life expectancy of 10 years and SFA says they are going to keep that ride, then they should know they are going to need to replace the motor at some point and time.

Sam A. Marks said:
Ya know, after IAAPA this year you might find a national or international BAN LIST for people that have posted Libelous comments about parks, and/or breaking park rules. Libelous meaning something that is a blatant lie, or a horrible exagerration.
It would be a horrible shame to be banned from a park OR MANY PARKS for "trying" to be humorous.
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never met a coaster I didn't ride (except Junior Geminii) :(

Before I get really upset about what you said, just who were you addressing this to?
*** This post was edited by coasterguts 10/21/2003 6:54:25 AM ***

coasterguts said: Before I get really upset about what you said, just who were you addressing this to?

That was in response to the original tall tale that started this thread, even you yourself said that there were holes in the story.

And the reality of the issue is that the parks aren't going to put up with lies, libel, and breaking rules for much longer. From what I've heard there may well be a nationwide ban list or at least a list of trouble makers adopted during IAAPA. Remember, parks read these boards!
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never met a coaster I didn't ride (except Junior Geminii) :(

Intamin Fan said:
When I suggested to someone that they get a replacement ride from Zamperla instead of fixing IE, I was told "We don't want anymore of their crap".

I'm curious...who exactly did you speak with? I doubt anyone with any sort of clout at SFA would badmouth a reputable company like Zamperla based on one ride.

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Sam A. Marks said:

That was in response to the original tall tale that started this thread, even you yourself said that there were holes in the story.
And the reality of the issue is that the parks aren't going to put up with lies, libel, and breaking rules for much longer. From what I've heard there may well be a nationwide ban list or at least a list of trouble makers adopted during IAAPA. Remember, parks read these boards!
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never met a coaster I didn't ride (except Junior Geminii) :(

I agree Sam, parks shouldn't have to put up with some of the crap that is being dished out. SFA has a strong libel case against one individual (whomever he or she might be) regarding some of the racist expletive comments about the park and it's staff in certain public forums. Frankly, I get tired of reading some of the crap that goes around about the park. Of course, you can always fight propaganda with propaganda also. Which you will see on a certain newsgroup sometime this evening.
*** This post was edited by coasterguts 10/21/2003 10:03:07 AM ***

Sam I don't have a hatred for SFA,if I did then why would I keep returning month after month during the season & buy a season pass year after year?

I've been a pass holder there since 98 (the last year of the Adventure world era) & will probably renew my pass yet agin for 2004,it's just that they could make a better effort to have some rides running at full capacity for a good part of the season.

Iron eagle has been at the park for a decade as of the 2004 season & like any ride that has been in a park that long it will have more frequent downtime as the years pass.SFA has done a good job of keeping this ride in operation & they're not about to pull a KBF & remove it anytime soon,but instead will focus the manpower & money to repair/replace any parts (most likely the drive motor) to keep it running.

Now if they can afford the time & effort to do this with Iron eagle then why is it that after 3 operating seasons they cannot seem to get Batwing to operate with at least two trains at least 25 to 50 percent of the time?

In defense of Batwing Fan.... He does go to the park and he does post trip reports that have are favorable of the park as well. He sees the potential I do in the ride but like me is just as fed up with it as I am. I'm sure if and when they finally fix the ride he will be just as big a fan of it as the rest of us and will live up to his choosen name.

BATWING FAN SFA said: it's just that they could make a better effort to have some rides running at full capacity for a good part of the season.
Iron eagle has been at the park for a decade as of the 2004 season & like any ride that has been in a park that long it will have more frequent downtime as the years pass.SFA has done a good job of keeping this ride in operation & they're not about to pull a KBF & remove it anytime soon,but instead will focus the manpower & money to repair/replace any parts (most likely the drive motor) to keep it running.
Now if they can afford the time & effort to do this with Iron eagle then why is it that after 3 operating seasons they cannot seem to get Batwing to operate with at least two trains at least 25 to 50 percent of the time?

I know the management at SFA and I know "for a fact" that their daily goal is to have every ride running, as best it can. I don't think they can do more! The problems with batwing aren't as easy to repair as the other trains on the other coasters. I can assure you that if there was something else that could be done, they would do it. At this point they have 2 operational trains, they run 1 till it breaks down, then they run the other, till it breaks or the 1st one is fixed. they "could run 2 trains, but if both break, then there's no batwing for the day, if I was in their shoes I'd do what they're doing, keeping the ride open as long as possible.

SAM

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never met a coaster I didn't ride (except Junior Geminii) :(

Thanks for the support there Coasterguts,too bad I havn't been posting TR's from my most recent visits although I've still got at least one of them written down.

I might post a TR covering my trip this saturday,usually I'm just too tired to post it the following day & when I get more into posting nearly a week has passed making the TR not as interesting to read as opposed to if it were posted a day or so after the trip was made.

Vater, I won't reveal who I talked to, but they have an important position in the park. Sure, Zamperla is a "reputable company", but, Iron Eagle has been one of the biggest problem children at the park since its installation. You weren't there the day I was when they had to do an evacuation on IE this summer because the seating area got stuck backwards to the loading platform. Why do you think Knott's is removing their Rotoshake? Because it broke down all the time from what I understand. The amount of money to fix IE is sickening to me, when I wish we could get a better ride, say a Chance/Morgan Revolution or Frisbee.
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Did anyone ever bother trying out the seats on the KMG Tango? And if so, were they male?

Intamin Fan said:The amount of money to fix IE is sickening to me, when I wish we could get a better ride, say a Chance/Morgan Revolution or Frisbee.

Know what would fit that site nicely? A Huss Top Spin, plus it would provide a similar yet, in my opinion, more exciting ride. Well, maybe it would be a bit tight of a fit. Wasn't there a Top Spin at SFA, sitting in peices next to Joker's Jinx's brake run back in 1999? I'm pretty sure you can see it in some of the on ride videos of Jokers Jinx such as the one on the Travel Channel's website. I wonder if that actually was a Top Spin, and if so, where it went and why SFA didn't keep it...so many unanswered questions.

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If you can't stand the heights, get out of the line.

I-Fan, just out of curiosity what are the other problems with Zamperla rides in the park. Aren't the swings Zamperla?

coasterguts said: what are the other problems with Zamperla rides in the park. Aren't the swings Zamperla?

the kiddie coaster was replaced if I remember correctly after the first was extremely troublesome, Iron Eagle is such a constant problem they leave one of the decorative side domes off for quicker access. swings have run fairly well, not alot of downtime, as with the teacups.

For the Record: my earlier comment about the Deja Vus all running was indeed un-true, thanks to a friend for sending me an e-mail setting me straight on this...however 1 is running, and I would suspect the others may follow suit soon.

SAM
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never met a coaster I didn't ride (except Junior Geminii) :(

Coaster Lover said:
Wasn't there a Top Spin at SFA, sitting in peices next to Joker's Jinx's brake run back in 1999?

That top spin went to SFDL, and is there today, it was supposedly slated to go in right next to the teacups, but I guess they changed their mind.

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never met a coaster I didn't ride (except Junior Geminii) :(