SFA 07/11/04 good news, and a mystery

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Friday, July 16, 2004 12:13 AM
Renegade,...ehhh BatwingFanSFA? Hmm then we would have Renegade Rapids and Renegade (the coaster)...a bit too confusing for the GP if you ask me...

If you can't stand the heights, get out of the line.

Friday, July 16, 2004 12:17 AM
first to "tekno", please don't take my "information" as if im saying that what i said will happen for sure but, after hearing as many things that i did, this is my prediction for 2005 (much like the weather report, I might not get it perfectly right, but if i see storm clouds i know it's probably gonna rain).

next to "coasterguts", i know for sure that sfa has at least 1,000 employees working there and for them to single me out would be a gross mismanagement of time and money, which frankly they don't have. and if they do, then so be it. but it would be nice to have just a little more optimism the next time i share "priveleged information", which judging by the reaction from this post wont be soon.

finally to "batwing fan", it doesn't take a rocket scientist or even a sfa exec to know what next year's coaster probably will be. when you think about it, its almost quite obvious. they wouldn't build an inverted b/c of mind eraser and two-face, nor a flying b/c of batwing, the height limit is 200 feet b/c of andrews AFB nearby, so dont expect anything taller than superman. and all of this is just fact not things i've heard but its quite obvious. oh yeah, the name, knowing SF it probaly won't be original in name. more details to come...

Friday, July 16, 2004 3:50 AM
Tell, me, how does a 17 year old working at Six Flags get all that information about a coaster that no one even knows is coming yet? At most parks, even supervisors don't know about future expantion.
Friday, July 16, 2004 8:41 AM

SFAcoasterguy781 said:
next to "coasterguts", i know for sure that sfa has at least 1,000 employees working there and for them to single me out would be a gross mismanagement of time and money,which frankly they don't have. and if they do, then so be it.

Well... We are talking about Six Flags aren't we.

but it would be nice to have just a little more optimism the next time i share "priveleged information", which judging by the reaction from this post wont be soon.

Why should I be optimistic? Every time someone reports they know what the park is getting, disappointment soon follows. Sure... I will keep an eye on the area Sam talked about but I'm not likely to believe a 17 year old "supposed" park employee that is all of suddenly willing to tell the Coasterbuzz commuity that SFA is getting a new roller coaster. Especially since that individual has posted two messages and I have no way of verifying you are a park employee. If you want to meet me at the park sometime and convince me in person, private message me and we will meet in a mutually acceptable area date and time.

Also, SFI has a history relocating rides at the last minute. Until I see building permits, a backhoe digging the first hole in the ground and concrete poured for the first footer I will keep my options open.

Friday, July 16, 2004 12:16 PM
Renegade?....man what was I thinking when I posted that?,then again it has been a long & difficult week for me.

What I was actually leaning more towards is something along the lines of Raging Bull(think SFGRAM here) as the coaster name,but only if it starts in coyote creek.

Coasterguts:I do see this "fence" as at least a sign of something happening,this is SF we're talking about here so we all know they're not too big on theming & they probably wouldn't put up a fence just for the sake of putting it there,but like you I too am not about to celebrate just yet until I see signs of construction such as permits,markers for footers or track in that fenced area of the parking lot.

Perhaps it's time to move this thread into general buzz?while it started out as a TR posted by our good friend Sam it has taken off more as a topic of general discussion on possible/probable future construction within the park.

Friday, July 16, 2004 1:39 PM
The 200ft. height limit has nothing to do with Andrews Air Force Base, and everything to do with the neighbors. When the park first opened, they flew a few balloons that were tethered to the ground just to prove it to them.

I think the employee count of 1,000 sounds way too high. Otherwise, all the rides would be staffed correctly, such as Batwing, and the rides in Looney Tunes Movietown.

A B&M floorless along the lines of B:DK at SFNE wouldn't be half bad, as it's got quite a kick for how short it lasts.

Friday, July 16, 2004 2:56 PM
I-Fan's right about the true reason for the 200ft height restriction imposed on the park,not only that but I wouldn't expect the new ride to be anywhere near as tall as S:ROS anyhow.

S:ROS is like the crown jewel of SFA & I'm sure they want to keep it that way for many years to come....I also agree that a floorless the size of B:TDK would be a good fit for SFA seeing as how it can easily fit into a compact footprint such as the general area that has been hinted at so far...although I wouldn't complain one bit if it turns out to be a new layout that's slightly larger.

Has anyone given any thought to the possibility of it being a clone of Medusa west? with the Raging Bull theme & paint job of course.

Friday, July 16, 2004 3:03 PM
I don't think any park would turn down a big, new ride, just to keep an older ride "the crown jewels". If SFA got enough money from corp. to outshine Superman, I'm sure they wouldn't pass the opertunity up.
Saturday, July 17, 2004 11:33 PM
I recently checked out the county planning board's long range agenda this afternoon & still nothing regarding SFA requesting construction permits for any new rides has turned up.

The board is taking the month of august off & will resume their schedule in september but so far the park hasn't scheduled a hearing for that time & that's two months away so I'm thinking of a differnt scenario to explaain the mystery fence.

If according to SFAcoasterguy781 they are hoping to add a B&M in 05 then my money is on it being the stand up that was postponed for Batwing,the only other approved coaster is attraction#40 the runaway car ride & we all know B&M wouldn't be called upon to do a small ride like that.

The only other way for it to be a floorless is if the park does what it did when Batwing was approved & waits until sometime in december to file the construction applications,so I'm starting to believe the fence that's been spotted in the overflow parking lot is for something other than a coaster,at least not for a new B&M.

If it is for a new as of yet unapproved ride & they wait till december to get it approved there'd be no real need to store track in the overflow lot so as to hide it when no track will be delivered until december when no guests will be in the park to see it so they can just go ahead & store any new coaster track in the main lot just as the park did with Batwing's track when it was delivered to the park.

Did anyone happen to visit the park today by any chance?

Sunday, July 18, 2004 3:34 AM
I'm going to the park with co-workers on Tuesday so I'll definetely check out this fenced off area.

Where again, should I be looking to see this from the second hill?

Kingda Ka: The only coaster that felt faster than the advertised speed! To me at least.
Sunday, July 18, 2004 8:54 AM
i'm hoping it's a coaster. I would like a stand-up or floorless, that would be cool. Maybe even a record breaking one (height or speed or inversion number please). I was at SFA on 7/12 but didn't see it-maybe it was because my whole swim team was pointing and screaming "THE HOUSE, THE HOUSE!" LOL. See my trip report. Is the lot near the house?


Sunday, July 18, 2004 11:46 AM
Im going to SFA tomorrow and I was wondering how bad is the crowd on weekdays? Last year when I went there was no one there. Thanks
Sunday, July 18, 2004 12:03 PM
If I'm not mistaken the lot is near the backside of the waterpark,just to the west of the wave pool.

It still might be possible that it does have to do with next year's possible coaster due in part to the location...Batwing's track was stored in the main lot because it is adjacent to the service roads leading to gotham city.

The area where the ride is supposedly gonna be located isn't near any service roads so the overflow lot makes the most sense to use for storage of new track,I'm still skeptical now however due in part to the fact that the required permits to build a new ride not already on the list from 99 havn't been filed with the county for approval yet & won't be it seems for quite some time.

Still the possibility for the stand up coming might exist,remember just because none have been built recently doesn't mean the concept is totally dead yet.

Now if the fence is still there when Go with gravity visits on tuesday then there's some degree of hope,but if it's been removed already then we're back to square one,I'm still thinking the fence may have been set up for some reason other than to store new track,I mean why put it up this early when the park is nowhere near ready to even apply for construction permits to build the ride at the present time?

Sunday, July 18, 2004 12:36 PM
I'd like to go on record and pass along my condolences to BWF on the passing of your pops. :(
Sunday, July 18, 2004 6:09 PM
Thanks Homey G,it's been a long week but things are getting back to normal.

Austin:where's the TR from your visit on the 12th?I've looked at all the recent TR's & Sam's is the only one posted regarding SFA within the last seven days.

Sunday, July 18, 2004 7:00 PM
Actually BFSFA, the track for Batwing was all stored in the employee parking lot (I've got the pictures to prove it). I would think with your screen name, you would have known this:)
Sunday, July 18, 2004 10:32 PM
I've seen the Batwing track pics as well & judging from the surrounding area in the background of the pics the employee lot must be in the front left portion nearest the ticket windows/main gate area.

Did anyone visit the park today & see anything new with regards to the fence?sure the weather forecast was crappy for the most part but it never rained during the course of the day,so hopefully someone made it out to the park today & was able to observe the goings on there.

Monday, July 19, 2004 12:57 AM
Batwing Fan, the employee parking is is on the right side of the parking lot (to be specific, the north-east corner). If you head up the far right lane where the bus parking is, right when you get to the end of the row (closest to the park), the right hand turn into the employee parking lot is right there...

If you can't stand the heights, get out of the line.

Monday, July 19, 2004 1:06 AM
Lord Gonchar's avatar This is a 2 page, 38 post-long thread about a fence. :)
Monday, July 19, 2004 1:43 AM
ApolloAndy's avatar "SFA is building for the future"

C'mon, we've had longer threads about fences.

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Calvin: "If your numbers go up, it means you're having more fun."


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