SF lies on their website

They lie here:
http://www.sixflags.com/press/mecca_of_thrills.html
The list on the bottom. I will make the corrections and you guys please tell me if I'm right:
The first to offer a pay-one-price admission ticket
*There were many before that like Luna Cleveland.
The first tubular steel roller coaster, The Mine Train, Six Flags Over Texas, 1966
*Can we say Disney?
The first log flume ride, El Aserradero, Six Flags Over Texas, 1963
*Wouldn't it be the flum at Knott's?
The world's first man-made river rapids ride, Thunder River, Six Flags Astro World, 1980
* Weren't there many before 1980?
The most adult and children's rides in one theme park, 70, Six Flags Great Adventure, 2001
*Cp still has the record.

Also:
For the past four decades Six Flags has created the tallest, longest, fastest and most innovative coasters on the planet.
*Gemini, Mangum, MF (not trying to favor CP but they broke height records at least three times)

Is it just me, or do they seem to strech a few things?
Note, please don't close this, I feel it needs to be discussed. Thanks!
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I pray that I will never see a Six Flags Conneaut Lake

Please! Coming from someone from Ohio....
And if you cared to read, S:TE IS a roller coaster and it IS the tallest and fastest coaster. So that is your answer to that. And we should add, first inverted coaster to that six flags website...LOL

*** This post was edited by SFGRAMBoy20 on 11/9/2001. ***

Height record was SF in 1988 and 1989 with Shockwave and GASM. Those are the only 2 I can think of, unless they are sub-categorizing. That would also give them tallest stand-up for Iron Wolf (1990) and Riddler's Revenge (1998). Add floorless to it, Superman SFFT, and longest, B:KF at SFWoA.

They also lie about themselves. They say Double Loop at SFWoA was the first double-looping back-to-back-looping coaster in the world. Obviously not, Shockwave at SFoT was built a year before!

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What year was the Double loop at SFWoa built?? I know that the Thunderbolt at Dreamworld was in 82.

And don't forget the "only coaster to break 100mph mark". Can you say Tower of Terror at 107mph.

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*** This post was edited by wayne "Thunder" currie on 11/10/2001. ***

Tower of Terror goes the same speed as Superman: UE @ 100 mph im pretty sure of that.
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In Six Flags defense, they do have the first log flume, and they have continued to come out with record breaking coasters over the years....

I'm pretty sure that they had the first rapids ride in 80, they were very popular in the early 80s, so that's my basis... but I am not afraid to admit I could be wrong.

The first log flume ride, El Aserradero, Six Flags Over Texas, 1963
*Wouldn't it be the flum at Knott's?
The world's first man-made river rapids ride, Thunder River, Six Flags Astro World, 1980
* Weren't there many before 1980?
The most adult and children's rides in one theme park, 70, Six Flags Great Adventure, 2001
*Cp still has the record.
Also:
For the past four decades Six Flags has created the tallest, longest, fastest and most innovative coasters on the planet.
*Gemini, Mangum, MF (not trying to favor CP but they broke height records at least three times)
Is it just me, or do they seem to strech a few things?
Note, please don't close this, I feel it needs to be discussed. Thanks!
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G.Bush:We will find those who did it, smoke them out of their holes, get them running, and bring them to justice.
I pray that I will never see a Six Flags Conneaut Lake
Okay I am pretty sure El Aserradero was the first log flume. Now i could be wrong, so dont jump on me. I can clearly remember Knott's saying that their log flume was on of the first, not THE first.
I am pretty positive Thunder River was the first river rapids ride.
Now I have never been to SFGAd so i wouldn't know but didn't Cedar point use to have 60 or so rides, but they added in Camp Snoopy, Took some out around when Millennium Force was built. So i wouldn't know if the total was higher that 70.
Okay so what record did Gemini break, except for being tallest at the time? I mean ALOT of coaster break hight records when they r built, that is sometimes the purpose.
Boy these people are hot with the reply button, alot of the stuff i was saying got out before i got done typing it
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*** This post was edited by MilleniumForce6279 on 11/10/2001. ***

It's sort of like the World War Three phone the president has... so tempting to use ;-)

Speaking of Gemini, remember that other coaster it shared the record with? Oh yea, that was Colossus....

The River Rapids Ride and Log flume statements are true....

bigkirby said:

The most adult and children's rides in one theme park, 70, Six Flags Great Adventure, 2001
*Cp still has the record.

Ahh....no they don't. Cedar Pt has 68. Great Adventure has 70

Thank you Antuan. I could be wrong one some things. On Knott's site they say they have one of the first flumes. My mistake. SFGRAMBoy20, ok, S:TE is the tallest and fastest shuttle coaster and MF is the tallest gravity full circut in the U.S. Thanks for the great responses guys! Glad we haven't turned this thread into a bashing spree.

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G.Bush:We will find those who did it, smoke them out of their holes, get them running, and bring them to justice.
I pray that I will never see a Six Flags Conneaut Lake

Also: on Six Flags' site, they have many errors regarding the ride descriptions fo each park. For example, the official SFDL site describes S:ROS as an impulse; and the official SFOG site describes Ninja as a suspended. I'm sure there are many other's like this. If the webmasters for SF are too lazy to get it right the first time, they need to get someone who is decent enough to get it right!

Six Flags site says of Ninja (a Vekoma multi-looper sit-down): "trains swing freely from side to side a total of 180 degrees through high speed spirals and sharp turns."

Six Flags site says of S:ROS (SFDL, an Intamin hyper): "Soar like the Man of Steel on Superman, a high-speed U-shaped LIM coaster."

Obviously, Six Flags officials get confused about their own rides that they give the same name. Anyone else notice these errors?

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Six Flags is that company you love to hate (but have to love!). As everybody has given expamples, they are dazed and confused about there own rides, never mind the rest of the industry. Its not so much that they lie, its that they do not know! Which would be amusing if it were not disturbing. But a confused theme park company is better than no theme park company. Six Flags has been responsible for many new, great roller coasters in the past and continues to deliver every year - you got to love it..

they need glasses to see how high their prices are and how low their coasters are.
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"What we have here, is a failure to communicate." This isn't unusal considering that a lot of these things are generated by an outside agency. Corporate sends them the info, and they put together a campaign, web site, etc. that has the spin on it that upper management wants. Yes, somebody has to approve this stuff, but the nuts and bolts people rarely see it until it's already out there.

*** This post was edited by Dutchman on 11/10/2001. ***

ROFL!!! Ok that S:ROS thing at the official SFDL website is HILLARIOUS....haha. I can't believe they did that. I guess the web people thought since S:UE and S:ROS have such similar names they must be the same...still funny...hah!

actually SFWoA's double loop was built in 77, and SFoT's Shockwave built in 78, BTW on the SF site it says shockwave was first, even though it wasnt

Perhaps I should have choosen a "softer" title than SF lies. Please, let's not turn this into a bash SF war, ok? Remember, before the 90's it was a little harder to research if you had a record. All I wanted to to was ask if they made a few claims that weren't true. Although I dislike SF, I don't say it in every thread than mentions it. It seems like we must turn ever thread that mentions SF into a bashing spree. some mod please close this. I got my answer and a little extra.

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My fellow Americans, let's roll!
I pray that I will never see a Six Flags Conneaut Lake