Second orca for Six Flags Worlds of Adventure in limbo

Posted Friday, July 26, 2002 9:37 AM | Contributed by Jeff

The federal government improperly issued a permit to Six Flags Worlds of Adventure to import a killer whale from Argentina, according to a complaint filed in federal court by several animal-rights groups. The orca is still in Argentina, where that government has not issued an export permit and is examining how it was captured. Officials at the Mundo Marino aquarium in Buenos Aires said Kshamenk, a 10-year-old male, was stranded in 1992. But the Humane Society of the United States, Earth Island Institute in San Francisco and the Wild Earth Foundation in Argentina say the orca was intentionally grounded and should have been released. Six Flags is not a named party in the suit.

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Friday, July 26, 2002 9:38 AM
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If that was a wild-born animal, then I do have a problem with it being captive. I'm all for the animals bred in captivity, as they don't have the ability to survive in the wild, but capturing them isn't right.

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Friday, July 26, 2002 9:47 AM

*Sigh*

Let the Six Flags bashing begin......

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Friday, July 26, 2002 9:58 AM
What about animals that are near extinction that are caught and taken out of the wild and while in captivity their numbers increase and then some are re-introduced into the wild??? For some animals that is the only way too keep their species alive.
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Friday, July 26, 2002 10:26 AM
beast7369's avatar I am sure in a drastic case like that captivity is acceptable as it would be the only means for the species to survive. However on the other hand if they were captured only to be shown off in a zoo or other public display I do believe that should no longer happen. Especially if it is not needed.

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Friday, July 26, 2002 10:26 AM
This is not Six Flags' fault, they want to purchase it. It's the fault of that Argentinian aquarium if they did indeed "steal" it from the wild. *** This post was edited by SFOfreak on 7/26/2002. ***
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Friday, July 26, 2002 10:35 AM

Well, at least Six Flags did get the one whale from France, so even if they can't get this one, they do still have one whale to show off and add to their diverse lineup.

Now, how about getting a dark ride!

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Friday, July 26, 2002 10:43 AM
I just hope they can get him in before next season...I'm sure we'll see a resolution by then.

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Friday, July 26, 2002 12:36 PM
If they already have a whale, then they need another one, because orcas need to have companions.
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Friday, July 26, 2002 3:18 PM

If the orca was indeed captured,than wouldn't you agree that it's to late to reintroduce him to the wild.

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Friday, July 26, 2002 5:55 PM
Ya know, the weird thing is, earlier like on Monday, I saw a commercial saying that Shamu is back. I'm guessing this is the whale but its weird how they where just advertising and this happened. Maybe I'm wrong - but has anyone else seen this commercial?

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Friday, July 26, 2002 8:30 PM

Hmm...that's funny - I would have thought "Shamu" was a registered name of the Anheuser-Busch-owned Sea World Adventure Park chain.....

I think this situation stinks to high heaven.

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Friday, July 26, 2002 9:01 PM
You would think with the advances in cloaning, nothing is in danger of being extinct anymore.
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Friday, July 26, 2002 9:35 PM
I don't know what its name was, but Shamu was what I thought I heard. I think it's probably something else, but I did see the commercial.

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Saturday, July 27, 2002 5:44 AM

Shourka is the name

I think this outcry by these animal lovers is pointless. What are they trying to do? Have the orca returned to the ocean? Also why are they trying to stop the transfer of the whale? Sometimes these treehuggers make no sense.

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Sunday, July 28, 2002 4:19 PM
Jeff, the i agree with you, but to get an animal bred in capivity, you have to start off with two orcas bred in the wild, unless you have heard of an animal born from a test tube. Sea World is the only place where they have SUCSSEFULY (sp?) bred an Orca in capivity.

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Sunday, July 28, 2002 5:23 PM
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What? Animals born in captivity don't know how to mate? Whatever dude...

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Monday, July 29, 2002 4:43 AM
Free Willy! But seriously, that whale would probably be better cared for in the U.S. That isn't to say it would be better cared for at SFWoA but there are other companies that have proved their ability to care for killer whales.
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Monday, July 29, 2002 9:24 AM
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You'll note that Shourka was bred in captivity in France.

I also do not agree with wild animals being captured for captivity unless it's specifically for the good of the species, or if the animal can no longer exist in the wild for whatever reason.

It's the capture of this orca 10 years ago that is in question. But, if the orca has been in captivity for 10 years, can it really survive in the wild now?

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Monday, July 29, 2002 3:15 PM
I don't think it really matters anymore how the whale was captured. The fact is this orca has lived in captivity now for ten years.

I would agree that we should not be trying to capture wild orcas, but at the same time we cannot correct all of the wrongs of the past.

Taking into account the fact that this orca has lived in captivity for ten years and cannot be released in the wild again, then I see no reason why Six Flags should not be permitted to import the whale.

It is very important that Six Flags obtain a pair of whales. I see no point in having the park obtain only one orca.

The primary focus of having orca's at Six Flags should be on a breeding and education program. The park certainly has the facilities to have a successful breeding program, but with only one whale I cannot see how they can follow through with their plans.

Eric

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