Second hyper woodie coming to Heide-Park in Germany

This looks like a sweet coaster. The first drop that turns you around after the lift appears to be about 70 feet followed by the biggest drop. Its going to be built by Intamin, interesting.

Anyone care to translate for us from German.

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Jeff
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I wonder if Intamin can build a woodie as smooth as their steel? If the background picture is actually it it looks like it could be a winner.

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Wood + over 150 feet drop = not a good woodie. At least that is what history proves. I hope I am wrong about this, but then again, will I ever ride this? Doubtfull.

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Gotta ride 'em all!

(God bless babelfish, no?)

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How dare you vanquish the Steel Phantom without his consent? Fear the Phantom's Revenge.

Soggy, where'd ya get that? SoB is one hell of a good ride. Definitely one of the most intense and powerful rides.

Everdred: let's see what it is like in a few years. Mean Streak was a great coaster it's first couple of years, then it became too rough over time.

Everdred, allow me to qualify that statement. SOB had more problems than ANY new for 2000 coaster. Major downtime, closed the same weekend that it opened, single train operation for months. Ride reviews are pretty mixed, some like the ride, the majority of riders seem to give it a slightly negative to a downright nasty review. The major complaint (of those who were actually able to ride it) is extreme roughness. I was there July 10, 2½ months after it "opened" and it was closed all day for "testing." Many people have similar experiences with it, Jeff?

Compare all of these aspects to something like The Villian or Boulder Dash. They break no records, yet both are considered by all who ride to be phenomonal rides. Just checking out your track recore, get on a CCI woodie as soon as possible. Even the "small" CCI's will show you what a great woodie can do. You will thank me later.

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Gotta ride 'em all!

Roughness is not the problem with the Mean Streak. It has three sets of trim brakes on the first drop! Personally, I think it would be a good ride if the brakes were removed. I would rather have a slightly rougher ride than one that lamely limps around the track barely making it over hills. I have yet to ride a CCI woodie, but I'm looking forward to it. My first will probably be The Boss.

Well, I liked SOB. I thought it was more intense than MF at the end of the first drop, and the only real problem was the fact that the train tended to bounce down the track a little, but it was not to bad. Of course, I rode it in August, so maybe it had finally broken in a little.
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And you must remeber Soggy, all of those coasters you speak of were built by the *same* company. Let intamin give it a try.

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Simcoaster awards 2000!

Best Steel:
1)Superman-SFNE
2)Goliath-SFMM

Best wood:
1)The Legend

I don't count 197 as being a hyper...

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"Go Full Force."
Millennium Force

Well, the German translation for "Größte Holzachterbahn der Welt" is "largest wooden roller coaster in the world". I don't think they have that right, doing a few conversions I get:

Length: 4,921'
Lift height: 197'

Neither of these are world records.

Soggy, was any of that actually attributed to it being big? The first closure they needed a little retracking in a part. Then it was struck hard by lightning, giving it structural damage. Once the structural damage was mostly taken care of, it reopened. As they continud working on the damage, it became safe to run 2 trains. Any rider that cannot handle it can't handle The Beast, which is definitely a lot rougher than Sonny...

Lothar~they only put those brakes on the ms drop because the speed was causing problems with the ride~i would rather be safe and have it go slower than having it go fast and not being ridable.
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I said this before, no woodie over 150 feet has ever been given rave reviews by the majority of its riders. Smaller ones (80'-150') tend to be much better received. Yes, most of the problems with SOB is because it is too stinkin' big. If it was smaller, with a similar layout, the trains would not be hitting the huge speeds that they currently do. The speed and weight is a bit more than "traditional" wood coaster design can handle. Notice SOB has custom trains? I am willing to wait and see if Intamin can get it right, but so far... Big = good for steel, bad for wood.

Don't get me wrong, if you love the ride, then that's great. I am still a little upset since I was looking SO foreward to riding it, and then not being able to.

Face it, SOB was NOT one of the best new rides for 2000. That's not my opinion, but the general attitude of both the general public and enthusiasts alike. Peace.

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Gotta ride 'em all!

SOB has custom trains because it has a loop. SOB is rough because it was built by RCCA, hello? Didn't take a rocket sceintist to see this one coming. Big wood *can* be done right, and has before. Just not in this country. There are problems with building larger coasters, but should they just give up? i think not. I say go for it until you get it right! BTW, if those pictures are any indication, this coaster looks alot more flexible and smooth than SOB could ever be, it is Intamin you know. I just hope it opens on time ;)

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Simcoaster awards 2000!

Best Steel:
1)Superman-SFNE
2)Goliath-SFMM

Best wood:
1)The Legend *** This post was edited by Simcoaster on 10/19/2000. ***

umm no that new coaster in germany is not a hyper woodie. it is not over 200 feet tall and does not have a 200 foot drop. how dare they even attemp to toutch son of beasts height record. lol

sorry if this last post affends anybody just tring to be funny. and im probobly not to most of the other coaster buzzers
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Cause I am whatever you say I am if I wasn't then why would I say I am. *** This post was edited by son of beast on 10/19/2000. ***