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Monday, September 16, 2013 10:54 AM

Vater said:

Nope, I don't own one of those. My instincts are just that powerful.

Track #2...Al Gore's greatest misses...

"Entire North Polar Ice Cap Will be Gone in 5 Years"

...as stated in 2008!

In terms of unchecked hyperbole, Vater's remarkable instincts, and crushed hopes from the 2000 election...I thought a little Al Gore sensationalism hits the spot.

Last edited by Aamilj, Monday, September 16, 2013 10:55 AM
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Monday, September 16, 2013 11:15 AM

One of George Bush's greatest misses: August 6, 2001, to a CIA briefer following a briefing on "Bin Laden Determined to Strike in the U.S.":

"All right, you've covered your ass now."

Last edited by slithernoggin, Monday, September 16, 2013 11:16 AM
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Monday, September 16, 2013 12:15 PM

Regarding polar ice, it is of course cyclical, but the overall trend is still down in a scary way in the last four decades. You might get your nearly gone figure next year. That's math, not politics.

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Monday, September 16, 2013 12:31 PM

Loss of polar ice also results in lower albedo...more of the sun's heat if absorbed instead of reflected, and the ocean temps rise.

The Earth has built-in mechanisms to try and bring itself back to equilibrium (e.g., plants and animals, oxygen and carbon dioxide). Of course, the self-balancing can only account for so much. To use Malcolm Gladwell's phrase, we're terribly close (or even past)..."The Tipping Point" - environmentally speaking.

edited to correct typos...

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Monday, September 16, 2013 12:52 PM

rollergator said:

Loss of polar ice also reults in lower albedo...

You're saying my albedo will improve if the polar cap melts? Sweet...

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Monday, September 16, 2013 1:26 PM

I'll bet your albedo would have been higher in the alternate universe where you got a bran muffin.

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Monday, September 16, 2013 1:28 PM

You say neat-o, Check your albedo
And roll to the church in your new tuxedo

Don't just stand there, Bust a move!

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Monday, September 16, 2013 1:35 PM

Vater said:

My instincts are just that powerful.

You spelled "blind partisanship" incorrectly.

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Monday, September 16, 2013 1:36 PM

I dunno, I agree with a lot of what Vater says and I'm exactly the opposite of a Republican.

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Monday, September 16, 2013 1:41 PM

All the more reason we need a viable third option that says, "I think for myself, and reserve the right to change my mind. **** you and your labels.

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Monday, September 16, 2013 1:42 PM

I regularly agree with people from all across the political spectrum, except when those people make baseless comments that are so obviously rooted in blatant partisanship.

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Monday, September 16, 2013 1:51 PM

I find speculation about alternate history a fascinating distraction. One of my favorite authors is Harry Turtledove, so that should tell you something.

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Monday, September 16, 2013 2:02 PM

Harry Turtledove wrote a novel where Vater got a bran muffin? Is that how the South won the Civil War?

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Monday, September 16, 2013 2:04 PM

Tell me then, dj, what baseless comment did I blindly make? That I don't think Al Gore would have been a good president? Because that opinion has nothing to do with any partisanship to a political party.

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Monday, September 16, 2013 2:35 PM

Vater said:

That I don't think Al Gore would have been a good president?

That's not what you said:

Even if Bush didn't turn out to be the president I was hoping he'd be, he was better than the Al-ternative.

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Monday, September 16, 2013 2:45 PM

And that is my opinion. Or should I have included the proverbial "IMO" that I typically leave out--much like I do emoticons when expressing sarcasm--to make it abundantly obvious that I'm professing my opinion?

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Monday, September 16, 2013 2:51 PM

I never suggested it wasn't your opinion. Only that it seemed baseless and partisan.

:-)

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Monday, September 16, 2013 3:31 PM

It's only partisan because you're reading too much into it. Vater didn't say that Al Gore would have been a bad president because he was a Democrat. He just said he'd have been a bad president.

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Monday, September 16, 2013 3:35 PM

Which is, in dj's defense, unknowable...

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Monday, September 16, 2013 3:42 PM

I'll never forget the SNL where they had Al host and he had hosted as if he'd been the president. He talked about no war and the electric car. It worked so well as comedy because it was comedic.

People that think that any president, Regardless of what party they're in, is going to change anything that benefits the majority of people are simply gullible.

We live in a capitalist society. Companies rule. We're never going to have a cheap, or even affordable, electric car comparable to gas cars. We're not going to find the cure to any disease, just the ways to fight it and keep it in check. We're never going to be at peace because war benefits the economy. I'm not some conspiracy theorist. I don't believe that the government has popcorn scented missiles. But people that think the government is actually bipartisan and is working for the best interest of the people are foolish.

We have a two party system to give the illusion of choice.

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