Riddler Valleys @ SFMM

Monday, March 11, 2002 8:26 PM

check out that story @ http://www.beakerzcoasterz.com/article.php?sid=24

How come a ride open since 1998 , never had problems like this at all would valley?!??!

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Monday, March 11, 2002 9:15 PM
That's odd. Nothing this major has happened to this ride from the day it opened on April 4, 1998. Must be wind or something was wrong with the wheel assembly? If I remember correctly, the train stalled in between the two over-the-top diving loops?
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Monday, March 11, 2002 9:16 PM
How many times has Mantis valleyed? I remember it being over 5 times, but I don't recall the exact number...anyone know the exact?
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Monday, March 11, 2002 9:21 PM
Wait a minute. The report says that it valleyed last Thursday and the ride had guests on it. That is odd considering that SFMM is only open on weekends right now. (Saturday and Sunday) Was that during a special event or what?
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Monday, March 11, 2002 9:44 PM

Mantis only has valleyed once, April 21st, 2001 BEFORE the operatin season started. 60mph winds and a greased track were said to be the contributors. http://www.guidetothepoint.com/thepoint/cpplace/thread.asp?ForumID=1&TopicID=4371

Never has Mantis valleyed during the operating season with people on it.

-seth

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Monday, March 11, 2002 9:45 PM

Well, the report is wrong is it says it had guests on it. The ride vallied in the morning during testing.

-Jeff

http://americacoasters.com

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Monday, March 11, 2002 10:37 PM

ucdaap42 said:

Mantis only has valleyed once, April 21st, 2001 BEFORE the operatin season started. 60mph winds and a greased track were said to be the contributors. http://www.guidetothepoint.com/thepoint/cpplace/thread.asp?ForumID=1&TopicID=4371

Never has Mantis valleyed during the operating season with people on it.

-seth

I really trust that Cedar Point management is not stupid enough to test a ride off-season in 60 mph winds. Say it to yourself. 60 mph winds. Winds like that alone could have chopped off ALL THREE of their VertiGo tower legs in one blast.


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Tuesday, March 12, 2002 1:31 AM

Ok, 60mph occasional gusts, of course I didn't mean sustained winds, that'd be silly. I wonder if the first drop trim was on...
According to S&S, the Vertigo towers were designed with a 90mph wind load, which is standard wind load for Northern Ohio, so a 60 mph wind shouldn't affect things, but obviously it did.

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Tuesday, March 12, 2002 3:01 AM

I find it also hard to believe that they used "the pull through method" to get the train back to the station. It would make much more sense to simply remove the upstops and pull each car off with a crane.

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Tuesday, March 12, 2002 5:20 AM
What I want to know is how the heck this think Valleyed at 60 MPH... Busted truck? Gimmie a break.

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Tuesday, March 12, 2002 5:29 AM

A description full of errors on a site I've never heard of (with no pic) makes it hard to believe. Show me a pic!

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Tuesday, March 12, 2002 5:42 AM
Sorry Jeff, I guess that I coppied the information down wrong...I will change that when I get home today. My bad, simple mistake. And I guess it wasnt on a Thursday...considering that the park isnt open on weekdays, I did that last night, wasnt all that awake, sorry.
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Tuesday, March 12, 2002 5:46 AM
And there isnt a way that I could get a picture, I wasnt there, this was information that I got from someone else.
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Tuesday, March 12, 2002 5:46 AM
Riddler has valleyed at least once before...I know the ride op who was working when it happened.

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Tuesday, March 12, 2002 5:54 AM
Yeah I think you are right, I wanst sure, so I thought that it wouldnt hurt just to put the first, so no big deal.

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Tuesday, March 12, 2002 10:02 AM
Woopdie Doo, send the helicopters, and media out.
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Tuesday, March 12, 2002 10:22 AM
That's exactly what I was thinking. Big deal...

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Tuesday, March 12, 2002 10:46 AM

kRaXLeRidAh said:
That's odd. Nothing this major has happened to this ride from the day it opened on April 4, 1998. Must be wind or something was wrong with the wheel assembly? If I remember correctly, the train stalled in between the two over-the-top diving loops?

Since when was a rollback with no one riding on it major? :)

*** This post was edited by KurtCobain on 3/12/2002. ***

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Tuesday, March 12, 2002 10:48 AM
Coasters vally. Its a routine thing.
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