Revolutionary coaster company for the next decade

Sunday, October 7, 2001 7:26 AM
I was wonder what people think will be the next relatively new coaster company to revolutionalize the coaster scene with a new design or new elements? B&M in the 1990's really helped to advance the steel elements and inversions while they also created the invert, floorless, and their incredible "speed' vehicles. I think the next company in the next decade, will be Giovainia. There hypers incorporate some really twisted and insane track which gives such an out of control feeling and intensity.
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Sunday, October 7, 2001 8:00 AM
I would not say Giovainia because they have only built two coasters, Goliath and Titan, which are pretty much have the same layout. I would not see any other type of coaster from Giovainia.

I would say B&M because they are just starting to build some new types of coaster (floorless and flying). B&M is building AIR, a flying coaster. This is one of the many new types of B&M coasters. The inverted coaster was a big step in coaster engineering back in 1992. Here is a list of the first types of B&M coasters:

1990 - Stand-up - Iron Wolf - Six Flags Great America
1992 - Inverted - Batman: The Ride - Six Flags Great America
1993 - Sit-down - Kumba - Busch Gardens Tampa
1999 - Floorless - Medusa - Six Flags Great Adventure
1999 - Hypercoaster - Apollo's Chariot - Busch Gardens Williamsburg
2002 - Flying - AIR - Alton Towers

Bottom line, B&M has designed some many different types of coasters that no other company could beat. Vekoma has lots of coaster designs, but B&M wins hands down.

B&M has amazed thousands and thrilled millions :)

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Sunday, October 7, 2001 8:15 AM
I think you misunderstood me, a relatively new company, of course B&M will keep on creating some incredible coaster with unique designs but B&M has made its presence known in the coaster area for 10 years. Giavainia has just gotten into the coaster scene and they have created more than just two coasters. Giavainia has created a incredible invert called Anaconda in South Africa and a vertical drop ride called Shaft of Terror, which is supposive better than B&M's design. Along with their two hyper, I say thats a amazing start for a company thats just getting into designing coasters.
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Sunday, October 7, 2001 8:21 AM
Giovanola also made Anaconda wich is a great looking, well themed inverted coaster. Anyone remember these pics? :) http://www.yourphotos.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=view_public_album&aid=4680&album_name=Anaconda  Giovanola also have their Tilt wich still hasn't been built. The future look good for them. But many other companies will also bring us some great new inventions.
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Sunday, October 7, 2001 8:38 AM
I think Intamin will be making more revolutionary designs in the new decade.  I think we should be looking forward to the possibility to more Intamin designs.

Intamin has been making coasters since the 60s. They have worked with the legendary Schwarzkopf from the 60s to the 80s.

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Sunday, October 7, 2001 9:18 AM

I agree with MF04, although Intamin is not a new coaster company by any means they are certainly making a name for themselves lately.  The impulse coasters are fan favorites, nobody has anything bad to say about their hypers, they are getting into the wooden sector also.  They have so much potential that we haven't realized yet in the states.  I would love to see a full circuit invert in the States (I know about Volcano, but I mean traditional).  Also who wouldn't want to see more coasters like Volcano with longer track lengths and more maneuvers?  They are also supposedly building the third giga coaster over in Germany, and don't forget about their standard sit down loopers that they are building over in Europe to set the new inversion record.  I agree that Gio has made some noise for a newby, but until they start cranking out more than one or two coasters a year they will be left in Intamin's, B&M's and possibly even Arrows wake.

Then again maybe it will be Togo (just kidding)

*** This post was edited by Incidentalist on 10/7/2001. ***

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Sunday, October 7, 2001 9:20 AM
After the wonderful design and construction of Lightnin Racers, I think that we could see GCI coming on a big producer of woodies.  Not revolutionary design elements, but an industry trend.
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Sunday, October 7, 2001 10:56 AM
I have to say, Premier
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Sunday, October 7, 2001 12:01 PM
B&M never did anything really revolutionary if you think about it. They may have perfected or at least improved many designs, but few were invented by them.
Standups: had been around since 1984, B&M's first was 1990.
Inverted: yes, this was the one big inovation by B&M. Then again, Arrow suspendeds were around since 1980. B&M kicked it up a notch.
Sit-down loopers: have been around since 1976.
Floorless: no big difference (for most riders) than a sit-down.
Hypercoaster: Arrow was first there, 1989.
Flying: Vekoma was first there.
B&M does some great things, but the term "Revolutionary" implys something that has never been done before. B&M takes proven designs and makes better versions of them. Don't get me wrong, I love B&M coasters, but revolutionary, nah.

Arrow has made the most breakthroughs and first-of-a-kinds in the past. I look for the New Arrow do continue to do so in the future.

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Sunday, October 7, 2001 12:22 PM
Soggy nailed it. B&M seems to take ideas to the next level. That made them THE company among enthusiasts during the 90's. It was Arrow in the late 70's - 80's. Who will be the "hot" company in the next decade? I have to go with Intamin. Simple, thrilling designs. Their newest creations already make the tops of favorites list everywhere. MF, S:ROS - these are just the beginning.
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Sunday, October 7, 2001 12:43 PM
B&M sitdowns have created some of the most revolutionary coaster elements and inversion. Here is a few of them: Cobra Roll, Zero-G roll, Immelmann and the Diving Loop. these are incredibly unique elements that had never been performed before. So even though the sit-down concept was not new, it did revolutionize the elements used for sit-downs. Also just because Arrow had created the suspended coaster, doesn't take anything away from the fact that the invert changed the coaster industry or revulutionalized it. The B&M shocked most of the coaster industry since it was such a radical design and incorporate some unique manuevers. The invert offered a completely different experience from any other coaste type especially the Arrow suspended.  Look at most major parks, almost all have inverts from either B&M, Vekoma or Intamin. This phase was all started by B&M Batman invert. 
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Sunday, October 7, 2001 1:01 PM
"Cobra Rolls" have been around since the 80's, first seen in Vekoma boomerangs. They just re-named it.
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Sunday, October 7, 2001 1:17 PM
I would like to point out that Giovanola, that is how it is spelled, has stopped making coasters, So no Tilt or any others. There may be new companies like B&M, that breakes off from a previous company.
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Sunday, October 7, 2001 1:54 PM
sethman, there was a so-called 'cobra roll' on an ARROW coaster (Drachen Fire) before the first B&M cobra roll (Kumba). Also, the "Immelman" is nothing but the second half of Vekoma's SLC heart-shaped 'rollover' thingy.

But really, the "fixed bogie-chassis" suspended or, as first marketed the "outside looping" coaster was B&Ms only real "revolutionary" innovation. Everything else was just improvements (and damn good improvements might I add!)
jeremy

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Sunday, October 7, 2001 1:57 PM
did Giovainia do Raging Bull?
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Sunday, October 7, 2001 2:05 PM

PKDStar01 said:
"did Giovainia do Raging Bull?"

No, Giovainia didn't construct/build Raging Bull. Bolliger & Mabillard built Raging Bull. Click on the link at the bottom of this reply for information on Raging Bull.


http://www.coasterbuzz.com/coasters/coaster.asp?CoasterID=97

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"Duff Man Says... Ohhh Yeah!"
Current Favorite Coasters:
1)Raging Bull 2)Medusa (SFMW) 3)Millennium Force 4)Vertical Velocity (SFGAm) 5)Dueling Dragons (Ice)

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Sunday, October 7, 2001 2:06 PM
NOOOO, B&M did Raging Bull.
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Sunday, October 7, 2001 2:48 PM
I think Arrow is coming back. X will decide whether Arrow has fixed their roughness and bangy problems. I predict that we will be seeing many more coasters from Arrow in the next 5-10 years. 
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Sunday, October 7, 2001 2:52 PM
I think B&M will keep on rising. For the past 10 years, they invented coasters that people would have thought impossible. And to this day, they just keep on!!! I also believe that Arrow will come back with some more, they started it all.

Ex. The X coaster

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Sunday, October 7, 2001 5:44 PM
For the last time, Giovanola is not out of the industry. I don't even feel like it, so I'm not going to, but if you don't belive me, do a search on Giovanola. Somebody started a whole topic on it with a letter directly from Gio. in it stating they were not out of the industry... Get your facts straight, people...
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