I followed by saying that there is no way they could be 100% sure that it was secure and it could wind up hitting someone in the face or otherwise. I just wanted some opinions and if anybody knows if any park allows you to take cameras on rides. I just kinda figured it was frowned upon by all parks.
I doubt the rules of any park allow taking cameras on rides. Just because the ride ops ignore you and your camera doesn't make it right.
Downhill Screamer said:
No matter how well you THINK your camera is secured, there is always a chance of it getting away from you.
Yea, and more importantly hitting someone in the head and possibly killing someone if you are on a ride like the Force or Dragster.
I would NEVER film without *express* permission, and a SECURE wrist strap. But I'd also hate to not have my POVs of Starliner and Zippin Pippin....esp. now that Starliner's fate seems sealed...:(
Bottom line, there is a risk in EVERYTHING you do....be smart and minimize the risks...;)
It's also frowned upon by all responsible enthusiasts. I doubt the rules of any park allow taking cameras on rides. Just because the ride ops ignore you and your camera doesn't make it right.
As an occasional on ride photographer, I dispute that.
I only take photographs on ride when I have expressly asked for permission from the ride operations staff, and if I'm told no, I put the camera away. When I do take the camera on board, it is always secured via a strap, and in one park (BonBon-Land) the ride operators attached it even more firmly with tape. It should be noted that the only park in the United States I've been granted permission to photograph on ride in was Bells in Tulsa. All the others have been in Europe -- probably because we're less lawyer-happy than those across the pond.
At any rate, I have posted some of my on ride photos on my web site, linked below, all of which were taken with permission.
The rules very from park to park, and even from ride to ride. The bottom line is this:
a) Always, always, always operate in a safe, responsible manner
b) Abide by the rules of the park and ride in question.
I don't understand why people make this into such a complicated issue. Either it is permitted or it is not. If it is permitted, do it safely. If it is not permitted, don't do it.
--Dave Althoff, Jr.
On most websites with lots of ride photos you will find some pics taken on the rides. I honestly don't think it is that big a deal and it is not something to get worked up over.
It's as simple as a vast majority parks don't allow it under normal circumstances.
I'm all for POV in an approved environment - even though I personally find POV shots incredibly boring and uncreative.
It's the breaking of rules and going against the wishes of the parks that gets me.
I'd rather not see the park/enthusiast relationship damaged over a few POV shots.
It's a respect issue, not a safety one.
RavenTTD, your statement sounds like the type of thing I hear from people who are too drunk to drive. "I can drive when I am drunk, I will be fine." 99% of the time maybe you can hold onto your camera, but what if your "secure" strap breaks and it slips? The camera could come lose and hit some one behind you.
Coasterbuzzer, what did you think you would get out of this topic? If everyone was for it would you start breaking the park rules? I am just curious. I have only been a member here for a little over a year and have seen this discussed a lot.
Of course, I said that there was no way to be 100% sure that the camera was secure. My real question was, are there parks that allow pics to be taken while riding without permission. Maybe I should have made that clearer. *** Edited 11/24/2004 8:15:43 PM UTC by Coasterbuzzer*** *** Edited 11/24/2004 8:16:45 PM UTC by Coasterbuzzer***
I understand the safety aspect, and agree with it. I myself wouldn't take pics while riding. At SFA while riding I had my lighter in my shirt pocket(that I thought was secure)and it got loose after the last helix. I was in the front seat, and it hit a rider on the head a few rows back. That person had a big lump on the top of his head.
I can only imagine what kind of damage a camera could do. As others have said as long as they have permission, and it is done safely its ok in my book. I just wouldn't do it myself. I agree with Gonchar that the pictures are much more pretty when the person is being more creative then taking POV.
I am sure there are parks that allow it, just not many, and surely not any park chain.
I've worked in the industry for a decade and a half now. I can count the cameras that've gotten loose on one hand. I don't have enough fingers and toes to count cell phones that I find every night.
It's much safer to have a camera strap around your body/wrist than to have a phone, change, keys, etc. in your pocket.
Someone said it above, and if I wasn't quite so lazy I'd scroll up and see who... it's about respecting the park's rules.
It's the same reason you don't smoke on the midways at Holiday World or drink beer at Kennywood.
Can it be unsafe? Of course. Is it intrinsically unsafe? No.
*** Edited 11/24/2004 11:33:20 PM UTC by coasterqueenTRN***
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