Random low ratings...

Just curious but is there anything that can be donw about random low ratings? I know that the random 0's are not tolerated but what about the random ratings below 5? It seems like I have been targeted on several different rides by random 3's, 4's and even 2's I am ok with any rating that has an explanation even a zero but I have recieved many of these random below 5 ratings and theyre pretty annoying. I don't want to mention names at the time to seem like a child but it is all by the same person. I'm not sure if it's normal and should be looked at as no problem or what. Aside from that it's late and I'm bored so I thought I would let someone know. Thanks for any help.

-Chris-

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What IF the whole world farted at once?!

I frankly don't understand why people rate things as high as they do. Most things I see aren't worthy of more than 6 on my scale. Maybe people just don't like your rides. If you're uploading for ratings you probably shouldn't upload.

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What time does the water show start?

That's kinda funny because I was going to say the same thing... but didn't want to be too harsh.

Most people's coaster creations on there are hardly anything to write home about. Hell, a couple on the No Limits 1.3 version download-update aren't all that great either.
I wouldn't hesitate on giving low grades and criticism to anyone. I'd want it for me, to find out where I can improve (constructive criticism), but man... some of those creations/re-creations really do suck (not specific to anyone, just in general) and really need to proof it over a few times. It's all just honesty.

I'm never satisfied with my creations, mainly with the No Limts ones, because of the little kinks in the connections that are detected when riding in the back of the coaster, or the sudden spikes in G's that don't appear like they'd be there when you first create it.

Most of the posters out there lately seem to be the age 10 to 15 crowd using AOL. Many of the creations on the top ten lists are complete crap lately. Actually, if you want my honest opinion, not enough low scores are going out, like Jeff said. Everything is a 9 or a 10 now. Anytime you give any of these new guys constructive criticism on their rides they go balistic on you. I think from now on I will put my stuff out at another site until some of the youngsters disappear from cb games.

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Bob Hansen
Resident Airtime Whore

Give me a freaking break, Chris, I just looked for all your rides, and gave you low ratings, because I saw you yelling at some guy for a 7. I was just trying to get a reaction out of you, and I did. HAHA. I liked your wooden rollercoaster, and your Superman ride was pretty cool, I just wanted to see if you would say anything.

-Steve

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sbens0181 said:
Give me a freaking break, Chris, I just looked for all your rides, and gave you low ratings, because I saw you yelling at some guy for a 7. I was just trying to get a reaction out of you, and I did. HAHA. I liked your wooden rollercoaster, and your Superman ride was pretty cool, I just wanted to see if you would say anything.

-Steve

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See what I mean?

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Bob Hansen
Resident Airtime Whore

Ok, so it was a little immature, but what else was I going to do in between Intro to HR, and Conflict Resolutions class. I was just bored.

-Steve
*** This post was edited by sbens0181 9/12/2003 12:15:25 PM ***

I spout off about the using the full 0-10 in CB Games every chance I get.

Doesn't seem to sink in much, though :(

Hell, I'm even guilty of shifting my scale upwards to meet the raised ratings...

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Many of the creations on the top ten lists are complete crap lately. Actually, if you want my honest opinion, not enough low scores are going out, like Jeff said. Everything is a 9 or a 10 now.

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This is another thing I keep trying to tell them - no one cares. I'm being the jerk as far as they're concerned.

Rather than fleeing, Bob, and waiting for them to go away - why not come over and drop some of these comments on those rides? At the very least the ratings will be a little more accurate and maybe the right people will get the hint :)

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I don't care about ratings THAT much but it seems like in the past lower ratings = fewer downloads. And as far as constructive chriticism that's just it I can get 20 downloads and not a single comment. As for the abmormally high 9-10 ratings for everything I agree other people besides myself go crazy when they got lower ratings when they think their ride(coaster) might deserve more. And sure, most of these rides uploaded will normally have great theming with a terrible ride(not in all cases but they exist). Either way I was bored when I made this original post and if it matters I'm 24 not 15. In short I don't care about the ratings as much as the lack of comments. I just hate recieving10-15 ratings and maybe 1 comment about how the person trying to download doesn't have wacky worlds and can't view the file. It gets rediculous and maybe I'm the only one having the no comment problem. Either way I'm through rambling for now.

-Chris-

P.S. and if I may be honest, people hand out such high ratings when it's a ride they know they could never build themselves. I mean come on there is only so much you can do with RCT2 anyways.
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*** This post was edited by ChrisTXHC 9/12/2003 12:42:41 PM ***

Don't start dissin' the rides in the top ten, i've got one in there :P

But yes it doesn't deserve to be.

The 9 for a good ride 10 for a good ride with nice scenery and 8 for a ride i don't like rating system is running a bit riot at the moment.

Also the 10-15 year old AOL users are in force but aren't everyone. I use AIM and I design as well as I can, I rate as fairly as I can and I take constructive critism well, so please don't tar us all with the same brush.

I think people are rating in relation to the other coaster on this site. If there is a really aswful coaster it's ll get a low score, if there is an average coaster, it'll look so good compared to the bad one before that it'll be marked higher.

I don't agree with this i'm just seeing how it's done.

What I don't like is someone giving a rating and not saying why, and also people who rate from screenshots. Those are my two biggest pet hates.

If I put a lot of effort into a layout and making the blocking work well just for some one to say "The station looks crap" and gives me a 4, whats the point?

I am at the point where I am almost embarrassed to upload anything because of the inflated ratings I get. I feel I have something to offer here, but I don't assume to be as good at pure coaster design as many others here.

I thought that getting in the top ten would give me the "exposure" to get critiqued by some of the better designers here, and to get a bigger variety of feedback. Instead, it got me a little "fan club" that 10's my rides from a glance at the screenshot. Ironically, I think one of my best and most useful coaster ideas ever (slow rollin') is the only of my recent uploads to not get on the list with an inflated score.

I have more to say, but have to go...
*** This post was edited by RCTandy 9/12/2003 1:53:39 PM ***

You know, I don't think I've ever given anyone a 10 for anything unless it was the obligatory self-rating. I've even been known to give Gonchar, who generally posts rides twice the calibur of everyone else, numbers around 7 or 8.

10 should never be used unless it's for perfection, something really unique and special. Even 9 tends to be too high in most cases.

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What time does the water show start?

I don't understand why these coasters with really weird names get such great ratings. They look awful. The top ten has rides with crap green colors or a really ugly design and yet they get better ratings than my Cedar Point

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yeah, that's an intelligent comment....how dare a coaster with green colours get a good rating...that can't be allowed

Andy, that's know as "lord gonchar" syndrome ;) - wait until people start accusing you of getting good ratings because of your screen name.

I think you gave me one "10", Jeff - for Sonic Tangle :) But yes, for the most part I'm a 7 or 8 guy when it comes to Jeff's ratings.

Maybe a FAQ section for CB Games? Explain the ratings, etiquette, grammar, screenshot rating - etc. I don't know if you could somehow require it to be looked at (like the TOS) when someone signs on. At the very least maybe a permanent link at the top of the page so when someone is out of line, we can just refer them to it.

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I think if someone truly believes a ride deserves a 9 or a 10 no one here should have a say. If you don't agree that a ride deserves a certain rating then do what I do and cry about it (haha nah j/k) but RCT2 isn't THAT realistic when it comes to building coasters but I believe this was never meant to be what it has ended up being. It is in general a game based around Amusement/Theme park design and though it isn't a no limits it is fun and we all build to the best of our ability and some on a higher level than others. as far as a "best" designer goes well I believe that is up in the air and a different topic alltogether. Either way I think most ratings are usually based upon theming and sometimes the performance of the ride. We all have our strengths in rct2 ride design and we all have our weaknesses plain as that.

-Chris-
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I am a thirteen year old AIM user, but I don't put myself in the class you're talking about KTS. I don't whine when I get bad ratings, only if the reason is dumb (ugly path) or just no explenation at all. It'as actually just as annoying as "great job 10/10". As long as there's a good explenation and reasoning, I'm fine. Sometimes I'll explain myself in response to a comment, but I don't consider that whining. KTS I really think you should post you're rides here agian, we need a spark here badly, with Gonch moving and not having that much RCT time, and bb leaving, we don't have much hope!

What you smokin? Long as I'm still making rides, the site lives. ;) Oh yeah, I'm not. Lol

But on the "hope" issue.

-Andy is reconsiderring uploading.

-BB_DG isn't.

- I won't be for a while.

- KTS is gone for a while

- Skittlz is banned

Let's not even bring the hope issue up, as we have none at the moment. ;)

But just on a side note, I am aware that I've complained a lot lately, but this is just rediculus people. It's just one post after another about people whining on how they're treated unfair.

Chris- Complains about ratings that can't be avoided.

KTS- Crys about how bad this site's coasters are, rather then trying to help with his own designs.

Gonch- Complains on how he had to change his own scale just cause the site wouldn't listen

Andy- Complains on how he's considered a god, and how people don't like the rides he thinks should be liked.

Ride of steel- mi ceder pint game shuld get mor 10 then teh green colored coester!!!111!!!

Not that I mind people complaining, cause sometimes you just gotta get something off your head, but this topic is just one mindless rant after another. Hardly anyone is adressing anything anyone else said. Let's just stay on topic people.

Anyway, Gonch, do you honestly think anyone would read an FAQ? Hell, I don't read the crap they tell me to before uploading. I check the box and get on with my day. An FAQ never does nor ever will work, unless you actually quix joining members, asking questions adressed about the FAQ. I think harsher punishments are all that's necessary. If someone types like crap, tell them. If they still do it, tell them. If they keep doing it, suspend them. If they keep doing it, then just ban them! It's that simple. Not every member turns into a productive one. You can't just let everything slip until this site goes to hell. Trust me, I've been to at least 3 other boards were immature morons were left un-tended to and it went to hell. Well, that's happening with coaster buzz right now. Jeff, I think more punishments need to be issued, but I'm no authority, so I might not know the whole issue.

And about the ratings issue, who cares! CB's ratings are messed. Just rate your way and leave it at that. I've had enough of trying to enforce the propor rating scale. Too much people are too ignorant to listen too anyone. So let's just forget ratings as a whole.

Just let me adress one point people. The all time list is the only one that means anything. Getting happy over the top ten is pointless cause it only lasts 2 weeks. I can't stand people who say "One more vote and I'm there!!!!". Just worry about contributing rides to the best of your ability and leave it at that.

"only if the reason is dumb (ugly path)"

Having an ugly path is a perfectly good reason to lower a rides rating.

"If I put a lot of effort into a layout and making the blocking work well just for some one to say "The station looks crap" and gives me a 4, whats the point?"

The point is for the other people who say "the layout and blocking are great". :)

Chris, in no which way shape or form is No Limits as fun as RCT. No limits is a chore, if anything. ;)
*** This post was edited by Omar 9/13/2003 1:12:28 PM ***
*** This post was edited by Omar 9/13/2003 1:56:36 PM ***

Yeah, there's a lot of crybabying going on over there. No one seems to understand constructive criticism. Everything either sucks or it's great. God forbid if you make one little comment, it's like challenging someone to a freakin' duel.

It sort-of makes me wanna go away, but then I figure I was there first, dammit. I'm not leaving for anyone.

Oh, there's another side to that syndrome, Gonch. I actually tend to rate your creations lower than I would if someone else made them. I figure you're more talented so you should have to try harder than them.

I have, too, found myself going with the masses more. What was once a 6 for me may rate a 7. Maybe even an 8. That's gotta stop. I don't care if they all end up hating me. I speaks tha truth.

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Isn't it nice, sugar and spice, luring disco darlings to a life of vice.

I have a simpler system for rating. Is it better or worse than anything I can do.

People's files that are better than me get a higher rating, worse likewise.

Now for another problem over ther, is there anyway to either stop or discourage people from uploading single tracks as saved games. I understand they want to show off their rides with scenery and landscaping but that's what screenshots are for. Besides we aren't going to be able to install their tracks as we see them in the park thru saved games anyway without testing and selecting the scenery all over again.

Saved games should be parks or at the very least track packs. A Gonch or Kick The Sky track pack would be nice. Hint Hint

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*** This post was edited by john13601 9/14/2003 12:58:36 AM ***