Raging Bull and Its Return to Glory

I swear that in 99, Bull's third hill was not using trims. I know I will be shot down here shortly, but I just had to add that.

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SFGAm: 1)DV 2)V2 3)AE Blue 4)Viper 5)Bull

I'm with 2Hostyl on this topic....

Bull kicks a$$ anytime, whether the trims are on or off. It is steel coasting uptopia for me. I have ridden RB when the trims were off on the final stretch and it does haul through that section. I may add that it was a three train operation at the time at night

I would like to ride it just once without the trims on the camelback.

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Bull fan, let me be the very first to fufill your expectation. I distinctly remember that god-awful, echoing, Ka-CHUNG noise those third hill brakes make from the very first time I saw the ride (up close). I didn't know what it was at the time, but it was most defineitely there. And, yes, I was there in '99.

(SF)Great American said:

Acually, I think Homey G is right: Ifyou're going fifty miles an hour, and are then slowed down to forty, there is a distinct loss in momentum, breaking the pacing of the ride. If the ride is already at 40, then there is no break: The ride simply barrels through the brake without anything happening to it. The ride mantaines its pace, whatever pace that is. Personaly, I'd rather be on a well-paced slow ride then a trimmed fast one.
Personaly, I think all this talk about Raging Bull's return to glory is nuts, as I don't think it ever had any glory to begin with: As long as the third hill brake and MCBR are on, it's tame (and I think the second hill is too tall, too). While still a fun ride, it's never been anywhere near one of my favorites. But that's all opinion (one might also look at the fact that the first time I rode it, the last coaster I had ridden was Maggie, and I was therefore expecting so much more...).

Ha never had any glory..... In it's first month of operation there was no trims just the mcbr. That was my all time favorite ride on a rollercoaster. No glory hahahahaaha.

(SF)Great American said:
"Personaly, I think all this talk about Raging Bull's return to glory is nuts, as I don't think it ever had any glory to begin with: As long as the third hill brake and MCBR are on, it's tame (and I think the second hill is too tall, too). While still a fun ride, it's never been anywhere near one of my favorites. But that's all opinion (one might also look at the fact that the first time I rode it, the last coaster I had ridden was Maggie, and I was therefore expecting so much more...)."

rollergator said:
"Raging *Steer*: The Ride....no nuts, no glory! I'm agreeing with Brian on this one in terms of PERCEPTION."

(SF) Great American, You're saying the ride sucks just because there are two trim brakes. Don't you dare take off points for the mid-course unless you enjoy waiting twice as long in a two train operation.

rollergator, The same goes for you.

Some coaster enthusiasts can be such spoiled brats.

Actually, when I was at the park Saturday the MCBR wasn't hitting AT ALL and they were running three trains. The first and last trims were hitting, but the last was barely on. Infact, it wasn't even noticable. The thing that really got me was that the ride was still absolutely amazing! I'd never thought that Bull could be THAT good! I definitely had the best Bull ride of my life that night! Although Raging Bull isn't a favorite of mine, I definitely think that it destroys Apollo. The ride has variety, airtime, a great layout, and is just awesome!
BTW - Has anyone else noticed how much freakin power that first drop has in the back seat?! WOW! Best B&M drop ever!

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Corey
"Have you ever tried backing out of a drive-through bank?" - George Carlin

I think those last eight words could have been thrown out of that post, SFGAm Shockwave.

Raging Bull was the best investment the park ever made. It is still the best ride in the park along with Viper and Deja Vu. There is a ton of airtime on the first drop (usually, sometimes I get a "dud" ride in which the Gs have no affect on me and the biggest thrill is going up the lift hill). Aside from the "dud" rides (which has only happened 3 times), I believe this ride could easily beat out almost any other coaster. As for the return to "Its Glory Days", well I disagree. This thing has always been awesome. I remember riding it back when it opened, just as good as it is now. Sure, there were less trims on the 3rd hill, but there is still a ton of airtime.

For all of those who say that it was bad, yet again aside from the "dud" rides, most deffinitly don't know what bad is. You want bad, go ride Flashback.

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The top 3 all time cobrarolls.

1)Raptor's
2)Deja Vu's (times 3)
3)Batman Knight Flight's

*** This post was edited by CobraRoller on 10/28/2002. ***

Hm. Perhaps it's just the interesting layout that has me hooked, but I love Bull- trims or no trims. It's not my favorite coaster, but its damn close to being just that.

I agree that trims are a psychological thing. If any enthusiast's eyes spot a trim brake; even before having ridden that particular coaster- the ride experiance is dampered. "But we coulda been going a whole 5 m.p.h faster..." The way I see it, those trims only help create that sweet floater air that keeps me coming back for more.

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Never Has Gravity Been So Uplifting.

*** This post was edited by BullGuy on 10/28/2002. ***

SFGAm Shock Wave said:

(SF) Great American, You're saying the ride sucks just because there are two trim brakes. Don't you dare take off points for the mid-course unless you enjoy waiting twice as long in a two train operation.

Did you read my post? I said that this is a fun ride. I like it a lot. It's just not nearly wild enough to be considered "thrilling" in my book. I'd say it's a tame ride, that could be thrilling with slightly smaller hills and less trimming. And as for the MCBR: Why does everyone assume that these brakes must slow the train down? They don't have to. They could just sit there and never do a thing, except in emergancy situations. But the vast majority of them have an effect on speed, and I consider Raging Bull's to be worse than most. And don't even get me started on the third hill trim... oh, the airtime that might have been!

*** This post was edited by (SF)Great American on 10/28/2002. ***

Bull is still a pretty good ride, even with the trims. But it could be fantastic without them. At least it's not trimmed on the first drop. Yet.

Frank- who would rather have the extra 5 mph and ejector air on the third hill