Question about Kingda Ka

Does Kingda Ka's trains have seats like Maverick. -Wide, spacely, the harness does not touch your shoulders.

If not what would you compare it to?if anything.

Thanks-Brian

They are the same. Only difference is that Maverick has thicker foam on top of the shoulder part.

Maverick

Kingda Ka

I wish there was a way to have restraints on Maverick that werent over the shoulder, but these are way better than Arrow horse collars...

Many people give Maverick's restraints a bad wrap. I've never once had a problem with them on all 50 of my ride on it. And I only saw a handful of people who had a problem with them during the 3 weeks I worked on the ride. Mostly caused by them putting their hands up during the first two turns.

yeah... I LOVE mavericks restraints. I have no problem what so ever with them. I do not put my hands up on Maverick what so ever, instead, I hold onto the upper part of the restraint and have no problem with the ride.

Thats why I asked if the restraints on KK were the same, because I plan on making a trip there, and was wondering how to 'ride' it. Hands up like ttd or, force to hold on so that the neck, back doesn't hurt.

You also have to remember the difference in rides. Maverick is all about quick transitions while Kingda Ka doesn't.

save your time and money - if you've ridden TTD, you've basically already done it. El Toro, however, is well worth the trip

lol

I don't like Maverick's restraints, it has too many quick changes in direction for them to be comfortable for me. I am 6'1".

I always move my body with the quick turns so I don't get tossed around.

Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe if Maverick was built at a small park such as, Lake Compounce or Indiana beach it would be ranked way higher than most, "so called" experts rank it.

^you may be right, but given time with more people able to ride it, it will likely rise because I agree it is a very good ride (best steel coaster at CP). don't forget it opened late and was 'down' for maintenance a lot

If they'd replace the OTSR's with something more like the restraints on Wicked or RotM, then it would rank higher for me. I absolutely hate getting my head/ears/neck popped against restraints. At least on Ka, the ride layout meant no such adverse effects...and for whatever reason, StormRunner's restraints didn't bother me in the least.

Maybe after I get a front-row ride on Mavy I'll feel differently?

^^ I know it didn't have a perfect record, but I spend a lot of time at CP every year, 2007 being no exception, and while it did have its share of "downtime" - it was far less than I had expected for a new Intamin at CP.

In fact, I even made comments a couple of times about how surprised I was to see how much it was up when I was there.

-Josh

At a park with so many technologically advanced rides, it is actually pretty amazing that, for the most part, all of the rides at CP are always open. The downtime is minimal. It would be easy for a small park to have one good ride and keep it running, but for CP it takes a good game plan, along with a great maintenance team.

^ I second that... I remember I booked a trip to Cedar Point last year, planned it for Mavericks opening. At first when they said that it wasnt going to be open when I planned my trip, I was thinking about re-booking my trip, but I didn't. Got to the park, Maverick was testing, later on opened! I'm really thankful for the park to get the ride up in such a timely manner. Kudos to them!

Storm Runner also has the same restraint system. I'm not sold on them at all. My neck gets slammed on every quick turn, that goes for Storm Runner as well as Maverick. I would really like both of those rides a lot better if they had different restraint systems.

I fear that Fahrenheit is going to be the same way.

Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe if Maverick was built at a small park such as, Lake Compounce or Indiana beach it would be ranked way higher than most, "so called" experts rank it.

Well I can't speak for these mysterious "so called experts" but I hope you're wrong ;)

I'm sure it's entirely possible that someone with an anti-CP bias might artificially rank Maverick lower simply because it's at Cedar Point or, conversely claim they would rank it higher had it been built at another park. In my eyes such a person has zero integity.

In my opinion each ride should be judged on only one variable: the ride experience. All other variables shouldn't factor in...not the park it resides at, not the crew that operates it, not the manufacturer or engineer responsible for it, not even for the special way a park might run it during an event.

Using my recent ballot for Mitch's wood poll if Knoebels' Phoenix was built at any other park and run it exactly as it runs in Elysburg it would still rank as my #1 Wood. My #2 ranking of Voyage is based on what happens from the moment you hit the lift to the moment you hit the final brakes and nothing more.

Likewise, move SOB (the wood coaster I rank dead last at #201) to Knoebels or Holiday World or Indiana beach or any other park and I would still rank dead last if operated in the same manner as at King's Island. The only way I change Phoenix's, Voyage's, and SOB's ranking is if their ride experiences change.

Just my .02cents....YMMV.

*** Edited 2/4/2008 12:11:16 AM UTC by Mamoosh***

^Yeah I believe you may be sincere but not everyone is as unbiased as you.

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manofthechurch said:
Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe if Maverick was built at a small park such as, Lake Compounce or Indiana beach it would be ranked way higher than most, "so called" experts rank it.

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While I agree with Moosh's points, I don't think anyone can answer this question definitively until the steel results come out. For all we know, Maverick could be the new #1 steel coaster.