PNE's Coaster in danger??

Monday, September 30, 2002 10:33 AM

I read somewhere that PNE might not renew their lease after next year meaning that 2003 would be the last chance to ride this unbelievable coaster!!

Anyone confirm on debunk? Rob? Anyone?

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Getting a B&M will always beat out having to take a BM.

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Monday, September 30, 2002 10:46 AM

Brian, I am "in negotiations" right now for CAC '03, and getting a ride on Coaster late summer...also, a chance to get on EV's (EchoVictor's) new woodie....looks like the time is ripe, so to speak. Of course, I thought the same thing about Whizzer, and we know what happened there....

Coaster IS i danger as of now, but it MAY be premature to think it's a "done deal"....do you wanna wait and find out AFTER it's too late? Come, join us in the Pacific Northwest....

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Monday, September 30, 2002 10:49 AM
Here's my ignorant side: What park are we talking about? What's PNE? I can't find anything with those initials at RCDB in the Pacific Northwest that has a coaster called "Coaster".

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Monday, September 30, 2002 10:51 AM

haux - Here is the exercise in brutality known as Coaster.

I'm all over another PNW trip next year.

Gator - who are you 'negotiating' with, your 'boss?'

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'If there's been a way to build it, there'll be a way to destroy it. Things are not all that out of control.' - Stereolab 'Crest'

*** This post was edited by chris on 9/30/2002. ***

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Monday, September 30, 2002 11:07 AM

No one's answering me... ;)

Is it in trouble of going down for good? :(

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Getting a B&M will always beat out having to take a BM.

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Monday, September 30, 2002 11:12 AM

HG - I don't think anyone knows for sure. I saw the new blurb about it on Screamscape, but there isn't any new info providided to substantiate the rumor resurfacing.

At any rate, I'm going out there *at least* once more next season to get more rides in while I know that I still can.

Your best bet is to see what Ronald Anderson has to say once he sees the new thread.

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'If there's been a way to build it, there'll be a way to destroy it. Things are not all that out of control.' - Stereolab 'Crest'

*** This post was edited by chris on 9/30/2002. ***

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Monday, September 30, 2002 12:04 PM

This is incredibly stressing to me. This coaster aptly named Coaster has just been brought to my attention by way of Rob and his glowing praise of it. He even proclaimed it his #1! He's ridden too many rollercoasters to be just throwing that kind of designation around, so it must be spectacular.

I just want to know if I HAVE to plan around a trip out there in 03 before it's too late. Considering I hate that I never got to ride Drachen Fire even if it was crap, you can imagine how this settles with me. :(

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Getting a B&M will always beat out having to take a BM.

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Monday, September 30, 2002 12:24 PM

I asked this a little while ago at www.coasterglobe.com (the guy who runs the site is from Vancouver) and got this reply:

Egg Nog said:


Yes, Playland is losing their lease soon, but this is actually a good thing... They should be moving to a more rural area within the next few years or so (it is currently around 5 minutes from downtown Vancouver).


There's a post over there too with aerial views of Canadian parks if you want to see just how little Playland has to expand in it's current location.

*** This post was edited by Krazy on 9/30/2002. ***

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Monday, September 30, 2002 12:29 PM

Well, I'd only view that news as being good if Coaster were to be relocated. I'm *not* really all that intrigued by a recreation.

Maybe I can get a job at 'Robland.' :)

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'If there's been a way to build it, there'll be a way to destroy it. Things are not all that out of control.' - Stereolab 'Crest'

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Monday, September 30, 2002 12:39 PM
No joke Chris... I've heard nightmares about Raging Wolf Kabobs. I'm guessing it's gonna be closed for my visit Saturday, huh?

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Getting a B&M will always beat out having to take a BM.

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Monday, September 30, 2002 12:40 PM
Oh, yeah. I asked about that too and he said it was confirmed it was moving with it. So I guess my "emergency visit" to Vancouver next summer won't be as necessary as it was before.

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Monday, September 30, 2002 12:43 PM

chris, yes....all *negotiations* with MY "boss" are harder than those with our "employer"....why IS that?

Brian....we've seen parks lose their leases before, and although this lease CAN be renewed, I know of TOO many parks that once were that have become condos....it may happen here, maybe not, but with the PIT's saying THESE things about Coaster, I simply cannot take that chance....and neither can YOU...;)

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Monday, September 30, 2002 4:05 PM

To answer a few questions about the PNE and Coaster.

The Pacific National Exhibition(PNE)is a fairground that also operates as an amusement park(Playland)It is located in Vancouver,BC, The PNE currently leases its' site from the the City of Vancouver.The city wants to convert this property into a city park.The PNE was granted an extension from the city for the year 2003.Last I heard from the PNE Media relations director,the PNE is in the process of negotiating with the city to remain at its' current location permanently.They have not been successful in finding a suitable location to move to.

The PNE Coaster was the last coaster ever designed by Carl Phare and is the only surviving example of his work.Other coasters designed by Carl Phare once stood in Portland,Oregon and Seattle Washington.

On my last visit to the PNE back in April,when I introduced Nasai to the PNE and Coaster,I noticed a number of improvements to Coaster.A new entrance sign was installed,an on ride photo booth,and lots of new pressure treated wood was in evidence on the ride.At least the PNE is taking good care of it.I did ask the ride op if he knew the status of Coaster.He said"Yes, we are going to move it with us.This is one of best wooden coasters in the world!" However,information from a ride op is not the most reliable.But ,with all the improvements on Coaster,I got a sense he may be right.

That said,there is no firm decision on what will happen to Coaster and the PNE. Proposals for Coaster include moving the existing ride and reassembling it elsewhere or building a replica using the existing trains.

For more information on the PNE go to www.pne.bc.ca.There is a link on the site to e-mail the PNE and give them your two cents.Above all, try to be positive when you e-mail them with your thoughts on preserving Coaster.I do think that they are realizing what an incredible treasure they possess.After all,it is the most popular ride in the park.

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Monday, September 30, 2002 4:25 PM

Amen, Ron. They do understand that this coaster is more than just a monster ride. It is truly historic, and unique, given its layout as well as its originality by being the only surviving Phare coaster in the world.

Brian, I never thought a coaster could so easily dethrone any other existing ride without many laps to enforce the change in my rankings. One ride, and I was done.:) As we coasted into the station, after being brutalized, after catching my breath, after calming my shaking legs, after laughing until my lungs hurt, after wiping my tears away, after re-analyzing the trip I had just made (all of this occured in seconds, mind you) it all became so clear. There was nothing out there like this. It is that special. The only thing I can say is that I sincerely hope to God that I haven't hyped the ride so much that any one of you could possibly be disappointed when you had your turn. I don't think it's possible, but I realize that rides are still wildly subjective. Still, I bet most of you who have yet to ride Coaster, that it would easily be in your top 10 regardless of your love for another machine. ...and I dare you to ride the last car, hands free on your first ride. $10 dollars goes to anyone that can do it with me. I don't think you can....;)

Ask Chris; ask cmiesen; ask Ronald Anderson; ask Bassistist. If you can trust 5 radically different personalities that this is a top 10 ride (if not #1), then you must ride it before it is gone.

PNE has stated, as Ron says, that the intention is there to move the ride, but we all know that time and time again, classic rides get burned down for the latest and greatest. It seems that wood just doesn't get the respect it deserves while corkscrew clones will be moved without a thought. We all know PNE has a Vekoma clone. Guess which coaster costs less to move? Think about it. It will take some serious talk, and faithfulness on our parts to ensure this ride lasts for future generations. You know....screw that. I want it for my generation. I want this coaster to live. To breathe. This coaster is a monster. A living demon. A bucking bronco. A bastard that wants you out of the car. It wants to drag you behind. It wants to dismember you. For those of you who know, help us keep it together. Don't let it become an unridable (read as torn down) legend. Keep it alive. Join in any campaign.

I never talk about coasters like this. I love them a lot. I have ridden a lot, BUT nothing compares to this one. Not for me anyway. Let's keep this one around for awhile, eh? Take off to the Great White North. Take off...it's a beauty way to go!
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Monday, September 30, 2002 4:37 PM

nasai said:

One ride, and I was done.

Ditto. I *knew* that I had experienced greatness after one ride. Later, when evaluating my rankings in the airport, I just could not justify ranking any other wood coaster higher. Coaster definitly 'flicked my bick.'

If there is ever an official campaign to save this ride, I'll definitly help in any way I can. Maybe some of us should start something? If there was ever a worthy cause, here it is.

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'If there's been a way to build it, there'll be a way to destroy it. Things are not all that out of control.' - Stereolab 'Crest'


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Monday, September 30, 2002 7:39 PM

nasai said:

This coaster is a monster. A living demon. A bucking bronco. A bastard that wants you out of the car. It wants to drag you behind. It wants to dismember you.

Now THAT is what a call a TESTIMONIAL....preach on!


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Monday, September 30, 2002 11:15 PM
Coaster scared the hell out of me. I can't wait to have it do so again next season, and hopefully for years to come when they relocate it.
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Monday, September 30, 2002 11:19 PM

.....and I challenge anyone who experiences Coaster for the first time, to ride this beast with no hands. I guarantee you'll grab the bar at least twice. NO other coaster has forced me to hold on for dear life...what a rush!

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Tuesday, October 1, 2002 8:34 AM

It is amazing to me that the PNE Coaster,for having minimal restaints (only a lap bar) that it has a perfect safety record. No one has ever gotten killed on it.And for all of its' brutality,that it tracks as smoothly as it does.Coaster is as close to coaster perfection that I have ever ever experienced.This is a textbook example on how to build and design a coaster.Lets' make sure this ride is saved! It is that special.

There is also a toll free number to the PNE for any memories you may have of the PNE.It is 1-877-763-3247.I think they are using this imformation to plead their case with the City of Vancouver to stay put at their current location.

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I can fix anything.....where is the duct tape?

*** This post was edited by Ronald S. Anderson on 10/1/2002. ***

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Tuesday, October 1, 2002 1:22 PM

Ronald - That's pretty interesting that the 'PNE Memories' are going to be used on behalf of the park in its appeal. I had seen that section of the website while I was planning my September trip, but had no idea that was what the stories were for.

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'If there's been a way to build it, there'll be a way to destroy it. Things are not all that out of control.' - Stereolab 'Crest'

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