PKI......A Case of Quantity over Quality?

the beast is still a top ten woodie ,but it's the best thing in the park, unfortunatly.
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'Playa, you ain't playin' here...IMO as well, PKI is a much better choice for families with little ones. (Can't say I don't wish Reptar was long enough to run two trains, but that's pretty minor when you stack it up against what PKI does have for kids....). THAT is why they draw the crowds...that and the new paint job on Racer...LMAO.

Not to turn this into a vs. thread, those really DO bite. But, the Point, OTOH, is much more thrill-seeker oriented, and one look at their "kids areas" proves that. Yes, it is a Mecca for coaster-riding, and I'll continue to try and make an annual "pilgrimage", but the two parks really DO market themselves to different groups...and that's a GOOD thing! I guess it goes back to that "freedom of choice" idea.

Quantity over quality = Astroworld
If a park really was interested in quantity over quality, I think you would see a lot of boomerangs, shuttle loops, portable wild mouse type rides, etc. Standard rides you could buy and install cheaply. I don’t see where PKI is doing this. Most of the coasters have unique layouts and in some cases broke new group for height, speed, and length of ride. On the other topic, how someone could not be interested in a park that has two 200+ foot coaster (3 next year) and two B&M’s is beyond me.
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I love WA (Wild Adventures for the uninitiated). I mean, their first coaster was 5 years ago, now they have a "bunch". Among those are a rollerskater, wild mouse, a Wisdom, a Chance coaster, an SLC, and a Boomerang. I don't really think of it as Quality vs. Quantity, I think of it more as a small park expanding as the market and finances allow. When Cheetah was announced, I'm sure many thought it was their first "Quality" coaster. While that may be true, I prefer to think of it as a sign that the park had "hit the big time"....

For an established "mega-park" it would be a different story...one I frankly don't see. "Family" coasters and "kiddie" coasters are there to appeal to families...just because they may not be as "thrilling" as the big boys, doesn't mean they don't have a place in the park. Just my 3 cents (accounting for inflation)...

Like Martling said, I think PKI would be the perfect park if they would just get a B&M, or Intamin Inverted coaster. It is desparately needed. But hey, the rest of their collection is nothing to yawn at.......

The Beast - how could anyone NOT love a wild wooden ride that twists and dives through a forest?

Vortex - only one of the most picturesque steel coasters in the world. Fascinating to look at, too. Look at that Boomerang and the way it feels going through those corkscrews between the loops!

Flight of Fear - Woah, where did the station go? They are actually able to twist steal like that, and cram it into a dark building? Am I still upside down?

The Racer - an absolute classic. The kind of coaster that scares you enough to make you giggle as you get off it, craving for a ride facing the opposite direction. A great ride where you hope and pray the trains stay on the track as they go through the turnaround.

Adventure Express - almost completely hidden from view, you don't know what to expect when you first get on it, but the first little drop gives you some idea. How about the out-of-control feel as the train goes faster and faster dropping through that inclined curve and whizzing past columns. Finally into a tunnel that leaves you hoping for more.

Top Gun - dangling there at the top, hanging over the trees, and then racing down the hill, and up into a curve that takes you literally horizontal to the ground. Swinging through those curves, you feel what it must be like to be in a dogfight!

Son of Beast - how can you possible beat two incredible, mind blowing helixes and a loop at that? On a WOODEN coaster?!?!

Face/Off - better hope that guy sitting in front of you doesn't lose his lunch in your face! Why do his eyes look like that?

Beastie - Ah, the good old days when I was 15, and my friend and I rode that thing several times straight though without stopping - hands held high, and some great little air times, too!

Reptar - only PKI would love kids so much as to give them a bit of the grown-up action all for themselves! Don't you just cherish their big grins when the see it?

I think once you have been to PKI, there really is no need to go to any other parks.

It does seem odd commenting about a park so strongly when you haven't been there. Some research into what the park offers in general should also give you an idea of the park's attractions, but you can't be sure unless you go. 'm hoping to make it to the CBCon (same weekend as Coastermania last time I checked!), and while I love the idea of trying out some of the coasters (Beast, Top Gun, FoF, Reptar), I also want to check out TR:TR and Drop Zone.

To the people who never went to CP, but think it's just coasters, you should probably take a closer look at the web site and the other rides. As a coaster nut, I finally got to go last year, and while I enjoyed the coasters immensely (especially Magnum and Gemini), the Power Tower was great, and for the quiet times, the Paddleboat ride was very relaxing and you really can't argue against the beach views from the ferris wheel. It's also hard not to enjoy yourself when you are asked how the ride was after every coaster ride.

This probably is why we thrill seekers go to so many parks in our lifetimes. The rides may be similar to a point, but the atmosphere of each individual park is addictive.


kRaXLeRidAh said:
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PT300 said:
Hey xbombman,

I wasn't really asking you, but thanks for giving your opinion.

Actually, by openly asking that, YOU DID.


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Wow, some people on Coasterbuzz are really irritating...

I think it was pretty clear who the message was directed to. I mean, he was the only one who said that, no?
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You are bold, but are you also...daring?

Well, for those of you who couldn't believe I made such a bold proclamation, well, try reading the first sentence of this topic again. I clearly state that I've never been to the park and that the park "seems" to have taken the quantity over quality approach. Hope that clears everything up.

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Well, why does it "seem" that way? Can you give examples in either fact or opinion? I just want to know why you felt that way. I mean, you don't just make up something like "SFEG looks like that have some darn good coasters o'er there" without really knowing why you think that if you've never been.

Irregardless of whether you have been to the park or not, something needs to be pointed out.

The word "quantity" would suggest that PKI is putting is a slew of rides just for the sake of a count. That assumption is not true with PKI. Why just this year the park is removing a coaster for the sake of a future addition. If they were concerned with quantity, they would not be sacrificing any attraction.

PKI is not in the coaster arms race. That war is foolishly being fought by SF and Cedar Fair. Although it is great that parks are adding lots of coasters, I personally feel we are seeing a trend to focus on, as you said, quantity over quality.

I digress.

The word "quality" suggests an attraction that has had extensive attention paid to every detail. I can assure you that IS the case with this year's attraction. PKI is raising the bar when it comes to seasonal theme park experiences. Last years additions were wonderful steps to changing the overall experience at PKI. But this year it only gets better.

I can't decide for you. No one can. Go to the park and make your own judgement. But remember that whether quantity or quality, PKI must be doing something right... they increased their attendance in 2001 when nearly every other took losses.

Shaggy

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*** This post was edited by Shaggy on 3/8/2002. ***

I think perhaps you might have misunderstand what I was saying. I meant that PKI is lots of coasters, but no "wow" rides. Sorry for any confusion this may have caused.

No confusion here. I think they have lots of coasters, but also a lot of "wow" rides.

Again, as I said above no one can make up your mind for you. We all have our own opinions of PKI or any park for that matter. As I stated, the only way to find out is to attend and form your own opinions.

My opinion of PKI happens to be very high.

Shaggy

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I know I said 'WOW!" the first time I saw SOB from the highway. I was lucky I didn't hit anybody as I was rubber-necking to get a better look.

Memphomaniac said:

I'm not knockin CP, I'm sure its a fine park, I guess, hell, what do I know? I've never been there.

But, you are knocking a park that you have never been to. Seems to me, you are going by what others think and not judging for yourself. Which is why IntaminFan made the comment.....Open your mind.

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No park I have been to is my favorite. All parks have there own "feels" to it. Some might have more coasters or whatnot, but it doesnt make it better. Compare SFWoA and CP for example. They both have awesome, and lower quality rides. The better rides at CP are MF, Magnum, Raptor, and Mantis.. SFWoA has SUE, BKF, XF, and Villain. Yea, some might be better then others, but thats your opinion. I cant choose which park is better between CP and SFWoA. They are both awesome, and I enjoy going to them. Even though I hear olot of bashing about SFWoA, I go there every week to go have a great time. Thats what parks are there for. If people bash it, I repect there opinion, even if its totally wrong. ( I think I jumped off-topic ;) )

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...apparently SteveWoA is NOT impressed by the wood at either park? Maybe try PKI, they have FoF, Vortex, Face/Off, and oh yeah, some wooden coasters TOO....j/k, having a good time....just find it hard to believe you have no love for the woodies BD, and Blue Streak...RWB and MS I understand completely...sorry bigkirby!

*** This post was edited by rollergator on 3/8/2002. ***

How the hell did we get on CP god you people cant go one topic with out talking about CP, its always CP this, or CP beats SFMM, or CP is the best, blah blah blah, Why PKI becuase the Beast thats why. And Also Magnum is overated piece of Arrow Crap, its needs to melted and used to make a Intamin God coaster.

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rollergator said:
...apparently SteveWoA is NOT impressed by the wood at either park? Maybe try PKI, they have FoF, Vortex, Face/Off, and oh yeah, some wooden coasters TOO....j/k, having a good time....just find it hard to believe you have no love for the woodies BD, and Blue Streak...RWB and MS I understand completely...sorry bigkirby!

*** This post was edited by rollergator on 3/8/2002. ***

Ive been to PKI. I liked that Beast, but it wasnt to impressive to me. Top Gun was awesome. Vortex I hated. Didnt ride Face/Off ( Line was too long ) But I rode Two-Face at SFA and it was very awesome. Racer was a nice wooden. SOB was cool, and I didnt ride anything else I dont think...

I do too like woodies ;)

Villain, ROAR, SOB, Big Dipper, and WildOne are awesome. Plus at my post above, I was just talking about the main coasters at each park ;)

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I don't really have a favorite park either. I feel pretty lucky that I've been about to absorb whatever"quality" many parks have to offer. From Knott's to SFNE, I've found something to love about every park I have been to. Looking for the perfect quantity to quality ratio? Stick to RCT.

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