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Saturday, July 29, 2000 11:52 AM
Mostly because at this point I have no way of remembering what order I rode everything in, I'll just first mention a couple interesting non-coaster things, and then into the coaster evaluation. first, since I was there with my brother and his girlfriend, (his girlfriend being unable to work up the nerve to ride much of anything.) I actually ended up riding the beastie, and adventure express twice. I got a SOB sports Quart, and that thing is just sick.. not only it is strangely penis-shaped, but it has a hand grasping around it's base, and a sign on it that says, "wood rules." *shudders*
on a final non-coaster note, for my last ride of the day, I hopped in line for Viking Fury. they anounced the ride was closing, with me the only one in line. however, the ride crew were kind enough to give me a ride with the entire boat to myself, and they even offered insight as to the best place to sit. It gave me that warm, special feeling. on to the coasters..

Face/Off - 2 laps. first on the very back/front in broad daylight, (very cool because during the inversions you could often see nothing but the sky.) and again at night facing 2 strangers. not the crap everyone says it is.

King Kobra - 2 laps. once day, once night. I'd have to rate the night ride better. I love this ride! the bunny hops rule, I got to see a really annoying teenager get smacked by weeds.

Vortex - 3 laps. Gawd, I LOVE this ride!! the drop is cool, the corkscrews are amazing because of the brakes just before them, and you can do a pretty cool trick on the vertical loops involving dropping a penny at the top and catching it below.

Beast - 1 lap. lines strangely long. but it's a helluva ride.

SOB - 1 lap. the restraints just plain suck. painful on the legs. I had assumed the loop would be a horribly painful experience, because it looked like it came right after the first drop. quite a surprise when we skipped the loop and entered the banked turn. 栀漀猀攀 琀椀氀琀攀搀 栀攀氀椀砀攀猀 愀爀攀 瀀爀攀琀琀礀 挀漀漀氀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 瀀愀椀渀昀甀氀 戀攀挀愀甀猀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 爀攀猀琀爀愀椀渀琀猀⸀ 吀栀攀 氀漀漀瀀Ⰰ 瀀爀漀戀愀戀氀礀 戀攀挀愀甀猀攀 椀琀 栀愀猀 渀漀 伀吀匀刀Ⰰ 椀猀 猀洀漀漀琀栀 愀猀 猀椀氀欀⸀ 琀栀攀 漀渀ⴀ爀椀搀攀 瀀栀漀琀漀 挀愀洀攀爀愀 椀猀 瀀漀漀爀氀礀 瀀氀愀挀攀搀Ⰰ 愀琀 琀栀攀 戀愀猀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 氀椀昀琀 栀椀氀氀⸀ 琀栀攀 氀椀昀琀 栀椀氀氀 椀猀 愀搀搀猀 愀 挀攀爀琀愀椀渀 猀挀愀爀攀 昀愀挀琀漀爀 琀漀 琀栀攀 爀椀搀攀Ⰰ 戀攀挀愀甀猀攀 椀琀猀 愀 爀愀琀栀攀爀 渀漀椀猀礀 猀琀攀攀瀀 氀椀昀琀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 愀氀猀漀 戀攀挀愀甀猀攀 礀漀甀 最攀琀 愀 最漀漀搀 氀漀漀欀 愀琀 琀栀攀 氀漀漀瀀Ⰰ 愀猀 眀攀氀氀 愀猀 猀漀洀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 甀瀀猀 愀渀搀 搀漀眀渀猀 愀昀琀攀爀 椀琀⸀  愀氀氀 椀渀 愀氀氀Ⰰ 愀 最漀漀搀 爀椀搀攀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 渀漀琀 眀漀爀琀栀礀 漀昀 琀栀攀 洀愀猀猀椀瘀攀 栀礀瀀攀 戀甀戀戀氀攀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 椀琀✀猀 焀甀椀琀攀 愀 瀀愀椀渀昀甀氀 攀砀瀀攀爀椀攀渀挀攀⸀ 㰀戀爀㸀਀㰀戀爀㸀਀伀䰀㨀䘀伀䘀 ⴀ ㈀ 氀愀瀀猀⸀ 渀漀琀 瀀愀椀渀昀甀氀 愀琀 愀氀氀⸀ 樀甀猀琀 欀椀渀搀 漀昀 挀漀漀氀⸀ 琀栀攀 氀愀猀琀 挀漀爀欀猀挀爀攀眀 椀猀 愀洀愀稀椀渀最Ⰰ 礀漀甀 挀愀渀 渀攀瘀攀爀 猀攀攀 椀琀 挀漀洀椀渀最⸀ 㰀戀爀㸀਀㰀戀爀㸀਀愀氀琀栀漀甀最栀 琀栀椀猀 琀爀椀瀀 氀攀昀琀 洀攀 眀椀琀栀 猀漀洀攀 爀攀愀氀氀礀 戀椀最 戀氀椀猀琀攀爀猀 漀渀 洀礀 昀攀攀琀 昀爀漀洀 眀愀氀欀椀渀最 猀漀 洀甀挀栀Ⰰ 䤀 猀琀椀氀氀 攀渀樀漀礀攀搀 椀琀⸀ 吀栀攀爀攀 眀愀猀 漀渀氀礀 漀渀攀 猀洀愀氀氀 椀渀挀椀搀攀渀琀 漀昀 戀爀漀欀攀渀 搀漀眀渀 爀椀搀攀猀 琀栀愀琀 䤀✀瘀攀 挀漀洀攀 琀漀 攀砀瀀攀挀琀 愀琀 倀䬀䤀Ⰰ 伀䰀㨀䘀伀䘀 眀愀猀 搀漀眀渀 昀漀爀 愀 戀椀琀⸀ 䤀琀 椀渀猀瀀椀爀攀搀 愀 挀攀爀琀愀椀渀 栀漀瀀攀 琀栀愀琀 洀愀礀戀攀 倀䬀䤀 眀椀氀氀 最攀琀 椀琀 爀椀最栀琀 愀昀琀攀爀 愀氀氀⸀ഀ਀ഀ਀ഀ਀ ⨀⨀⨀ 吀栀椀猀 瀀漀猀琀 眀愀猀 攀搀椀琀攀搀 戀礀 刀愀瀀琀漀爀䴀甀渀欀攀礀 漀渀 㜀⼀㈀㤀⼀㈀   ⸀ ⨀⨀⨀
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Saturday, July 29, 2000 1:34 PM
you went the day after i went.....and had basically the same opinions except i hated the sob much more...that ride is so stupid it isnt even funny. i cant really explain it...... lame or shame? maybe both. sob is TERRIBLE! when i got off SOB, that is just what i did, sob with pure amazement on how something could be so overhyped and just lack everything and be so boring.
-Mike
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48.6mi. - CP
27.2mi. - SFO
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3 MF rides:
3-2, 5-1, 9-2 *** This post was edited by punk on 7/29/2000. ***
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Sunday, July 30, 2000 7:55 PM
Then what is your fav. wooden?
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Monday, July 31, 2000 7:40 PM
RaptorMonkey, you were there the same day my son and I were.

PKI was the last park in our 8 day 5 park coaster excursion. We kind of went in an opposite circle from you.

We started at Beast, after a trip up the Eiffle Tower. Had two walk on rides on this critter, one front row, one back row. Quite different experiences. The front row was not to bad as far as roughness and there is that one banked curve where the banking starts out 3/4's of the way up the straight drop into the curved tunnel! Awesome! The back row was just too rough. My son was not enjoying it at all. First picture had my arms in front of my son's face. The second had a pained expression on his face.

Next we rode Vortex. This was our 5th or 6th Arrow looper of the trip. I really felt that this one was slow. It felt like were hardly had enough speed to roll out of the corkscrews to me. My son didn't share my opinion. I didn't think it was rough, but my son complained of headbanging. I guess since my head sticks well out of the OTSR's and his doesn't he gets more of that.

Then we rode Outer Limits 2 times. PKI could light the steps into the space ship in the queue line a little better. I thought that this was a good ride, but my sone again complained of headbanging. But he wanted to ride it again. We bought the second picture here.

Then it was on to Racer. We went for the backwards ride first. This was a different experience. But the ops were not racing the trains. The one op looked and moved like she was hungover. Between each train, she shuffled back into the booth to sit on the ledge. She was also the last one to clear her side on each of the 4 trains I saw loaded.

We also went to the forward facing side. The coaster was better backwards IMO.

We grabbed some fries and a Drink at the stand opposite the Adventure Express. I agree with the comments about the SOB refillable quart cup. Then into the Adventure䔀砀瀀爀攀猀猀⸀  䴀愀礀戀攀 洀礀 栀攀愀爀椀渀最 椀猀 最漀椀渀最 愀昀琀攀爀 琀栀攀 洀愀渀礀 挀漀愀猀琀攀爀猀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 䤀 樀甀猀琀 挀漀甀氀搀渀✀琀 甀渀搀攀爀猀琀愀渀搀 琀栀攀 猀漀甀渀搀琀爀愀挀欀 琀栀愀琀 眀攀渀琀 眀椀琀栀 琀栀攀 琀栀攀洀椀渀最⸀ 㰀戀爀㸀 㰀戀爀㸀吀栀攀渀 漀瘀攀爀 琀漀 䬀椀渀最 䌀漀戀爀愀⸀  吀栀攀 爀攀猀琀爀愀椀渀琀猀 眀攀爀攀 愀 氀椀琀琀氀攀 搀椀昀昀椀挀甀氀琀 琀漀 最攀琀 椀渀琀漀⸀  䨀甀猀琀 琀栀爀攀愀搀椀渀最 戀漀琀栀 愀爀洀猀 椀渀琀漀 琀栀攀 猀椀搀攀 爀攀猀琀爀愀椀渀琀猀 眀愀猀 搀椀昀昀椀挀甀氀琀 昀漀爀 愀 戀椀最 最甀礀 氀椀欀攀 洀攀⸀  䈀甀琀 䤀 洀愀搀攀 椀琀⸀  圀攀 眀攀爀攀 搀椀猀愀瀀瀀漀椀渀琀攀搀 椀渀 琀栀椀猀 爀椀搀攀Ⰰ 樀甀猀琀 搀椀搀渀✀琀 琀栀椀渀欀 琀栀攀爀攀 眀愀猀 洀甀挀栀 琀栀爀椀氀氀椀渀最 愀戀漀甀琀 琀栀椀猀 猀琀愀渀搀甀瀀⸀  䤀 最甀攀猀猀 眀攀 眀攀爀攀 猀瀀漀椀氀攀搀 戀礀 䴀愀渀琀椀猀 ⠀䌀倀⤀ 愀渀搀 䤀爀漀渀 圀漀氀昀⠀匀䘀䜀䄀⤀⸀ 㰀戀爀㸀 㰀戀爀㸀一攀砀琀 眀攀 氀漀漀欀攀搀 愀琀 昀愀挀攀 漀昀昀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 琀栀攀 氀椀渀攀 眀愀猀 瀀漀猀琀攀搀 愀琀 ㄀⸀㔀 栀漀甀爀猀⸀  匀漀 眀攀 眀攀渀琀 琀漀 琀栀攀 戀愀最攀氀 猀栀漀瀀 渀攀愀爀 琀栀攀 昀爀漀渀琀 最愀琀攀 愀渀搀 栀愀搀 氀甀渀挀栀⸀ 㰀戀爀㸀 㰀戀爀㸀吀栀攀渀 眀攀 最漀琀 椀渀 琀栀攀 匀伀䈀 氀椀渀攀⸀  䤀琀 眀攀渀琀 愀 氀椀琀琀氀攀 瀀愀猀琀 琀栀攀 琀甀渀渀攀氀Ⰰ 愀戀漀甀琀 㔀  洀椀渀甀琀攀猀 眀漀甀氀搀 栀愀瘀攀 最漀琀 甀猀 漀渀 琀栀攀 爀椀搀攀Ⰰ 椀昀 眀攀 栀愀搀渀✀琀 栀攀氀搀 漀甀琀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀 昀爀漀渀琀 猀攀愀琀⸀  吀栀愀琀 洀愀搀攀 椀琀 愀戀漀甀琀 㜀  洀椀渀甀琀攀猀⸀  䤀 琀栀漀甀最栀琀 椀琀 眀愀猀 瀀爀攀琀琀礀 最漀漀搀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 洀礀 猀漀渀 搀椀搀渀✀琀 氀椀欀攀 琀栀攀 爀攀猀琀爀愀椀渀琀猀Ⰰ 眀栀椀挀栀 栀攀 猀愀椀搀 栀甀爀琀⸀  吀栀攀礀 眀攀爀攀 搀漀甀戀氀攀 琀爀愀椀渀椀渀最 漀渀 琀栀椀猀⸀  伀渀挀攀 愀最愀椀渀 洀礀 爀愀椀猀攀搀 愀爀洀猀 挀甀琀 漀昀昀 洀礀 猀漀渀猀✀ 栀攀愀搀 椀渀 琀栀攀 瀀栀漀琀漀⸀ 㰀戀爀㸀 㰀戀爀㸀圀攀 琀栀攀渀 最漀琀 漀渀 吀漀瀀䜀甀渀⸀  吀栀椀猀 眀愀猀 愀 洀甀挀栀 洀漀爀攀 攀砀挀椀琀椀渀最 猀甀猀瀀攀渀搀攀搀 琀栀愀渀 䤀爀漀渀 䐀爀愀最漀渀 ⠀䌀倀⤀ 戀甀琀 椀琀 眀愀猀 爀攀愀氀氀礀 猀栀漀爀琀℀  䤀昀 琀栀攀礀 氀攀渀最琀栀攀渀攀搀 琀栀椀猀 爀椀搀攀 琀漀 愀戀漀甀琀 琀眀椀挀攀 椀琀✀猀 瀀爀攀猀攀渀琀 氀攀渀最琀栀 椀琀 眀漀甀氀搀 爀攀愀氀氀礀 戀攀 猀漀洀攀琀栀椀渀最⸀ 㰀戀爀㸀 㰀戀爀㸀䴀礀 猀漀渀 琀栀攀渀 猀愀眀 琀栀愀琀 䐀爀漀瀀娀漀渀攀 栀愀搀 猀琀愀爀琀攀搀 甀瀀Ⰰ 猀漀 栀攀 爀漀搀攀 琀栀愀琀 ⠀㄀ 栀漀甀爀⤀⸀  䤀 眀愀琀挀栀攀搀⸀  䐀椀搀 渀漀琀椀挀攀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀 漀瀀猀 挀愀甀最栀琀 愀 欀椀搀 琀爀礀椀渀最 琀漀 最攀琀 漀渀 眀椀琀栀 愀 挀愀猀琀 漀渀 栀椀猀 愀爀洀 愀渀搀 眀漀甀氀搀渀✀琀 氀攀琀 栀椀洀 爀椀搀攀 ⠀瀀攀爀 瀀漀猀琀攀搀 爀甀氀攀猀⤀⸀ 㰀戀爀㸀 㰀戀爀㸀圀攀 琀栀攀渀 爀漀搀攀 昀愀挀攀 漀昀昀Ⰰ 愀戀漀甀琀 愀 㐀㔀 洀椀渀甀琀攀 眀愀椀琀⸀  吀栀椀猀 眀愀猀 瀀爀攀琀琀礀 昀甀渀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 䤀 琀栀椀渀欀 琀栀愀琀 ㈀ 琀椀洀攀猀 琀栀爀漀甀最栀 眀漀甀氀搀 戀攀 戀攀琀琀攀爀⸀  伀渀 爀椀搀攀 瀀栀漀琀漀猀 洀愀氀昀甀渀挀琀椀漀渀攀搀 愀渀搀 洀椀猀猀攀搀 漀甀爀 琀爀愀椀渀 攀渀琀椀爀攀氀礀⸀ 㰀戀爀㸀 㰀戀爀㸀䴀礀 猀漀渀 戀漀甀最栀琀 愀 匀伀䈀 猀栀椀爀琀⸀ 㰀戀爀㸀 㰀戀爀㸀圀攀 氀漀漀欀攀搀 愀爀漀甀渀搀 猀漀洀攀Ⰰ 猀漀渀 爀愀渀 琀栀爀漀甀最栀 琀栀攀 一椀挀欀氀攀氀漀搀攀愀渀 眀愀琀攀爀 洀愀稀攀 愀渀搀 爀漀搀攀 䈀攀愀猀琀椀攀Ⰰ 眀栀椀挀栀 栀攀 猀愀椀搀 眀愀猀 昀甀渀⸀ 㰀戀爀㸀 㰀戀爀㸀匀椀渀挀攀 眀攀 栀愀搀 琀漀 搀爀椀瘀攀 昀爀漀洀 䌀椀渀挀椀渀愀琀琀椀 琀漀 匀琀⸀ 倀愀甀氀 琀栀攀 渀攀砀琀 搀愀礀Ⰰ 眀攀 眀攀渀琀 栀漀洀攀 眀栀攀渀 椀琀 猀琀愀爀琀攀搀 琀漀 猀瀀爀椀渀欀氀攀 愀 氀椀琀琀氀攀⸀ 㰀戀爀㸀 㰀戀爀㸀圀攀 栀愀搀 愀渀 攀渀樀漀礀愀戀氀攀 搀愀礀 愀琀 倀䬀䤀 愀渀搀 琀栀漀甀最栀琀 椀琀 愀 瀀爀攀琀琀礀 最漀漀搀 瀀愀爀欀⸀ഀ਀ഀ਀ഀ਀ ⨀⨀⨀ 吀his post was edited by coasterdad on 8/6/2000. ***
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Tuesday, August 1, 2000 3:08 PM
strange, dad, sounds like you really didn't enjoy much. :-/

on Vortex, the speed through the corkscrews is deliberate, I think it makes them pretty fun. From your descriptions I gather you're about my size (I'm 5' 9" and 234 lbs. though only 13) as I hardly ever get battered by OTSRs. I find it odd that you didn't feel any pain on SOB, I got the impression a smaller person wouldn't hurt much..

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WE'RE ALL GONNA DDDDDIIIIEEEE!!
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Thursday, August 3, 2000 9:32 PM
I cant wait to go to PKI
It'll have to wait till next year.

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SFoT 40th birthday
Big Things in sight
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Friday, August 4, 2000 7:32 AM
my favorite woodies:
#1 Villain
#2 Big Dipper(SFO)
#4 Comet(Hershey)
#5 Wildcat(Hershey)
#6 Blue Streak
#7 Lightning Racer
i will ride shivering timbers in either two weeks or next year. i dont really like twisters too much.
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48.6mi. - CP
27.2mi. - SFO
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3 MF rides:
3-2, 5-1, 9-2
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Friday, August 4, 2000 8:39 AM
At least we share riding one coaster (Villain), how is the ride on Big Dipper, (it was closed when i was there.
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Friday, August 4, 2000 10:05 AM
it is the perfect wooden coaster. only 20 feet tall i think, but has roughness in the right spots, awesome turn-and-drops onto hanging pine trees, bench seating with one lapbar that locks in one place, and great views. i think it is the most underrated coaster(comet at HP too) in the U.S.
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48.6mi. - CP
27.2mi. - SFO
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3 MF rides:
3-2, 5-1, 9-2
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Friday, August 4, 2000 11:18 AM
So the lapbars are like the ones on Raging Wolf Bobs?
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Friday, August 4, 2000 3:59 PM
i think, the last time i have ridden was last year. i swore off that ride. put it this way: you share your seat and "lap" bar with the person next to you. no seat dividers, head rests, or seat belts.
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48.6mi. - CP
27.2mi. - SFO
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3 MF rides:
3-2, 5-1, 9-2
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Sunday, August 6, 2000 9:24 AM
Coasterdad, Your son really doesnt like much. You must live by an AWESOME park.
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Sunday, August 6, 2000 12:17 PM
Well it was our 5th park in the week. So I think by the time we got to PKI we were both a little tired. We drove over 2400 miles, hit 5 parks, and rode about 40 coasters, in 8 days. But as I said we had a good time.

Home park is Valleyfair!, which is certainly not as big, or good a park as either PKI or CP.

CP was my favorite park of the trip, followed by SFGAm and PKI in a tie, SFO at last. KW is really in a class by itself, I don't want to rank it next to last, but it is not the same as PKI or SFGAm. We enjoyed the trip a lot.

I actually enjoyed the trip pretty well. RM, I am 6'0" and about 285, with a long torso. Most of my weight is upper body. My son is 58" inches, which puts his ears right at the same level of most of the OSTR's out there.

My son and I obviously don't always share the same opinion about coasters. Given our different statures, we don't always experience the same ride.

I really didn't have a problem with SOB restraints, but he said that he got the lap bar down one click too far.
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