Photos show lifthill rising at Europa Park

Is that lift steeper than 30 degrees? It looks like it in some of those photos.

I don't think I'll ever get used to lifts that look like that. I'm so used to support structures that look more like Magnum or Steel Dragon.

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I had the same thought as you Jeff...it definitely does seem steeper. From the looks of it, it will also be the first sit-down B&M coaster with only one set of stairs on the lift. And look for some odd support arrangements as this ride will be running right over the top of a parking lot.

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It does look as if it is a bit steeper, the park is probally limited on real estate. This ride is going to require a decent amount of "pull out" space.

I like these lift supports in terms of style as opposed to the ones used on Nitro. Nitros are more "A" shaped and these are more "I\" shaped.

The thing that gets me is that track size, granted, its probally a proportion issue, but I don't remember Batmans track being that wide when I stood next to it in 1999 in the Geauga Lake Parking lot.

And the thickness of the spine on this looks almost mutant, i need to go back and look at other B&M hypers track.

I definitely prefer Silverstar's |\ shape over Nitro's /\ shaped supports.

Before Nitro was built, I thought that simple B&M supports would look much better & cleaner than the complicated Arrow, Intamin, & Giovanola hyper supports.  But after Nitro was built, I immediately changed my mind.  I think Nitro's supports looks hideous and random.  Hypers like Magnum, Mamba, Superman: Ride of Steel, and Millennium Force look much sexier with those complex, intricate support structures.

I have to say, though.  Silverstar's |\ supports are an improvement over Nitro's.  They look pretty good.

*** This post was edited by IslandKG on 11/1/2001. ***

i think Nitros supports are awesome looking. The way the track goes thru them is pretty sweet . I prefer them over the arrow style supports.Those look cheap and weak. I think the way nitros supports are gives the ride a bigger look.

My God! That one piece on the second page is huge!

That just goes to show I wasn't imagining the fact that not all the pieces have the same backbone depth.
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Anyone have stats or info on this ride?
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Is this ride going to have "the dip" or not?
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"It looks like they just decided to hang up wheat all over the park" - my friend Steve, describing the FearFest decorating at Kings Island.

No it won't have the dip.

It looks like the lift is >30 degrees, but I don't think it goes to MF's 45 degrees.

Silver Star has pratically the exact same layout as Nitro. It also has the same stats as Nitro, I smell an answer!

_________Length Height Drop Speed(mph) Duration
Silver Star:5315' - 239' - 213' - 79 mph - 4:00 min
- - - Nitro:5394' - 230' - 215' - 80 mph - 4:00 min

*** This post was edited by Acrophobia on 11/1/2001. ***

What in the world are you talking about IslandKG? The supports for BMs are always like that! Check photos of Raging Bull or Apollo's Chariot and they will both have the |\ style supports. The only reason they look like that on Nitro is because you can't get any closer to the lift hill to get a good look in the employee area.

The only reason the supports are like that on Nitro is because the lift spans over the Congo Rapids reservoir. The supports couldn't just come straight up from under the track on the lift like they do on Silverstar. Oh, and the second hill is in the /\ shape for the same reason, it has to go over a stream. The rest of Nitro's supports are all shape in the l\ fashion. *** This post was edited by Bob Hellyer on 11/1/2001. ***

Sorry, Velduanga, but you're wrong.  All of Raging Bull's lift supports have the /\ shape; the queue is right under the lift hill.  Apollo's Chariot's lift, on the other hand, have the I\ formation.

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http://www.geocities.com/RollerCoasterTalk *** This post was edited by coasterdude318 on 11/1/2001. ***

What is the point of arguing about support? NOTHINGWho cares about what the supports look like, what about the actlual ride!

Thanks Acrophbia, I could not have said it better myself. But to throw my two cents in ALL B&M coasters usually have both types of supports somewhere through out the ride.

Okay, enough with the supports... it still looks awesome... another Nitro... good for Europe...and we have "nitro... well whatever

WOW! That track is HUGE, it must stand at least 7ft. tall .

B&M supports are sweet, I hope I get a chance to ride Silverstar.

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