Phoenix painted green or just moss?

Tuesday, June 27, 2006 2:39 AM
I've heard both I think, but what is it? Either way it looks great. There was a woodie in NJ a long time ago, Wildcat, that was REALLY painted green - http://www.rcdb.com/ig2061.htm
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Tuesday, June 27, 2006 8:24 AM
Yeah, the Bertrand Island Wildcat was painted green (but it seemed to be a much lighter green than Phoenix). The later years of the park, though, the coaster had a nice patina of peeling paint, mildew, and wood rot.Bertrand Island was a really cool place. The condos they just built aren't nearly as much fun. :(
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Tuesday, June 27, 2006 9:06 AM
Actually, just stained green.

Looks pretty cool, doesn't it?

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Tuesday, June 27, 2006 1:05 PM
It's not a stain, its' the wood preservative. It's a pressure treatment called Wolmanizing, and it leaves the wood a light green color. Quite a number of recent coasters have been built using wolmanized lumber.
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Tuesday, June 27, 2006 1:36 PM

Dutchman said:
It's not a stain, its' the wood preservative. It's a pressure treatment called Wolmanizing, and it leaves the wood a light green color. Quite a number of recent coasters have been built using wolmanized lumber.

So are they gonna turn green in a few years? I really like that, looks great! Some coasters will look great with that green tint...

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Tuesday, June 27, 2006 2:02 PM
Phoenix is a dark green, and I think there is more going on with the color than just the preservative. Besides, doesn't Wolmanized lumber eventually turn a silvery gray?
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Tuesday, June 27, 2006 7:29 PM
http://pictures.rcdb.com/picmax/bertrand-island/wildcat4.jpg

Whatever color this coaster was, the picture of this drop makes me go "Whoa."

http://linked.mroach.com/whoa.jpg

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Tuesday, June 27, 2006 8:19 PM
I've kind of wondered this as well since in some older pictures/post cards Phoenix looks like a natural wood color like here:

http://pictures.rcdb.com/picmax/knoebels/phoenix2.jpg *** Edited 6/28/2006 12:22:25 AM UTC by P18***

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Tuesday, June 27, 2006 9:26 PM
I wonder why they didn't use that for TWISTER? Or could it be that it just hasn't started turning green yet.
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Wednesday, July 12, 2006 9:05 AM
While some treated lumber has a greenish tint, it doesn't turn the dark green like Phoenix over time. And if you look at it close up, you can tell (i.e. "They missed a spot" here and there).

So its either Stain or Paint. Which, I don't know. I heard it was stain, but a recent news article on J.Fetterman talked about the Phoenix and mentioned paint.

Originally, Hershey Park's Comet was dark green as well. Even in the early 1970's (after Hershey Park became Hersheypark), the Comet was still dark green. Sometime in the late 1970's it's color was changed to its presend day white. (was it around 1978 and part of its "rehab" that year?)

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Wednesday, July 12, 2006 12:53 PM
Many coasters have had odd colors over the years.

Heck, I think the Scooby Doo at KD (and KD) was originally a bright green.

And of course Beast used to be stained red.

Shaggy

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Wednesday, July 12, 2006 1:46 PM
Agreed... and some are still painted Odd colors...

Such as Dutch Wonderland's hideious light blue and purple paint scheme on (the formerly white) Sky Princess.

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Wednesday, July 12, 2006 1:59 PM
The green color on Phoenix is a stain. It is made in Montoursville, PA, home for decades of PTC master builder Frank Hoover. The paint company's name is Chemcoat, and the name of the solid color stain is "Phoenix Green".

John

KG

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Wednesday, July 12, 2006 2:51 PM
Hehe, not even the Golden Gate Bridge has a paint color NAMED for it... :)
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Wednesday, July 12, 2006 5:23 PM
Anyone remember when the KW Racer was green?
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Thursday, July 13, 2006 1:04 AM
Yeah, when you are in line for Phoenix and look to the right just above the tunnel, you can see where some green stain has dripped down some of the support beams on the drop into the double-up-double-down. Thanks for clearing everything up, Mr. Fetterman. BTW, thanks for building me ;)

-TWISTER

PS: What will the wood in the trough of Flying Turns be treated or covered with to prevent it from wearing very quickly?

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Thursday, July 13, 2006 10:01 AM
Thanks, John. That settles that.

The Betrand Island Wildcat used to be green. Not sure if that was paint or stain.

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Thursday, July 13, 2006 10:28 AM
I think it was paint. I've seen pictures that looked like peeling paint. And the last few years of the coaster's existence, it had a nice patina of wood rot.

I wonder how many people are going to call up Chemcoat and order a batch of Phoenix Green for their deck! *** Edited 7/13/2006 2:30:00 PM UTC by millrace***

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Thursday, July 13, 2006 10:37 AM
What a great idea Millrace! ;)
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Thursday, July 13, 2006 12:03 PM
...maybe you should ease up on the mid-course trims ;)
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