Perilous Plunge 4 point harness pic

Hmmm....I think this 4 point restraint will be very comfortable. It'll be seated next to your neck, possibly cutting circulation making you light-headed. Plus, it's rubber, correction, wet rubber, so if you have long hair, it'll rip it right out giving you a much needed hair cut as well. ;) The thing has gotten out of hand, people demand more safety and as they want more, they break more safety rules making for more regulations. This is not going to end. It's kind of like a catch-22 if you think about it. **thinks....head explodes and becomes perilous plunge dummy**

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The SFMM Salvi said:
The thing has gotten out of hand, people demand more safety and as they want more, they break more safety rules making for more regulations. This is not going to end. It's kind of like a catch-22 if you think about it. **thinks....head explodes and becomes perilous plunge dummy**

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SFMM Salvi is right. This thing is goten out of hand. I've really never noticed this but people complain they aren't safe enough, then once new regualtions and rules are made the break those.

Parks need to do something if some one gets hurt. But I don't think it should lead to changing a restraint system that already is perfectly safe for those in the limits. The park, Knotts in the case, just needs to have more signs and verbally make notice of these limitations. Although people may still violate them, the park would not and should not be faulted for the accidents that the park goer implies on himself.

Intamins right, the restraints are fine how they are.

But it's a little late for that, it's something they should have done in the first place. You don't say, "oops, ok someone died, now we'll make sure everyone knows there is a weight limit". Not with the wrong people now watching the park with both eyes open. Let's face it, the ride is done. Luckily, Knott's still has two other outstanding water rides.

I think KBF has made a WISE decision in putting in these 4 point shoulder "seatbelts". I think they look just fine and all of you shouldn't be complaining because it could be worse, like a otsr's. SO BE HAPPY! Plus, someone just died at their park, so don't you think they would want to make the ride safer to prevent the same thing from happening again?? This is when the saying "Learn from your mistakes" comes in handy. All you guys really need to stop complaining, THERE IS NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT! I know all of you would be thinking the way KBF is right now if that was a member of your family who died on that ride. Think about it..................

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Are the harnesses needed?...IMO NO!

But am I going to complain....No, because I will probably visit KBF once in the next 5 years. This 4 point harness is the least of my worries.

In situations like this you have to ask....Does this directly affect me, if so, then complain about it all you want, but if not then just let it go!

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OutKast said:
For the hundreth time, she DID FIT! That's the problem...

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Yes, but you know something terrible is going to happen when you see her fat hanging off the sides of the boat and the supports are creaking as it makes its way up the lift...

Yeah. Fitting, and fitting properly are two completely different issues.......

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Koppman said:
Yeah. Fitting, and fitting properly are two completely different issues.......

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Yes that is exactly what I meant, maybe I should have specified. If the weight rules are strictly enforced, heck have a scale that they have to step on (some parks already do this), than maybe they won't be as likely to be stupid (especially since most GP's IQ [which isn't high to begin with] drops a staggering 20 points once they hit the park entrance gate).

I still say it was her fault, maybe I'm judgemental, but I think I would know if my fat was hanging over the restraints and such. (oh, bad mental image).

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Unlike (apparently) a lot of people here, I'm not prepared to lay all the blame on either the rider or the operator. I still haven't seen a convincing scenario for what really went wrong. I think it is safe to assume that at the time of the incident, both the rider and the operator thought that everything was OK. Given that bit of information, it's real hard to drop the blame for the incident on the rider or the operator, unless the scenario analysis proves that the only way for the rider to come out is if she climbed out. But given that this ride happens to be in California, I question whether that much of an investigation was ever done!

That said, I don't think this ridiculous contraption is the best solution for the problem. My worry is that they are going to be hurting people on this ride because they didn't do the analysis to find the appropriate solution to the problem.

Let'sjust hope they don't pull a "Texas Tornado" with this thing!

--Dave Althoff, Jr.

These things are definitely going to slow down the loading and unloading times. I think from a PR standpoint it has to be done to ease people's fears, legitimate or not. This story I'm sure was reported all over the area and has scared some. It's very possible that KBF behind closed doors is saying that it is something that is not needed for safety. But for PR, and getting people into the park and forget about all the stories about how someone died riding this thing, it may be needed.

I think the most unsafe I feel in any ride is on these water/flume rides. Like DudleyDR at IOA. Really all flume rides. You just feel like if you don't hold on tight you will be propelled forward. Even a small ride like the log flume at BGT. I started out in the back and slid all the way forward when it dropped. Nearly pushed my son all the way into the pad in front.

I'm all against adding unecessary restraints such as in the case of PP but some rides may need them. JPRA at IOA pushes kid's faces into the pad if they are just at or above the height requirement.They should do something about that. I'm talking about revisions, not additions to rides.

Fat people and Intamin do not mix. We all know about that Fat man on superman(his butt had to hurt), i think another fat person will fall from a intamin. I am so tired of the topic i just use fat now instead of the kinda word obese.

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Marine World Freak said:
...it could be worse, like a otsr's....

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Yes, that would be worse, but OTSRs would have a quicker dispatch time involved than four seatbelt connections.

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I find it strange that we are having this discussion at all. Humans are strange creatures. We worry about accidents and deaths over here, but almost ignore them elsewhere. Why is it that a ride is shut down and numerous people have to get involved contemplating a solution when ONE person dies, but 100's of people die in car & plane crashes each year and no one seems to be calling for the elimination of autos or proposing that planes be grounded?

Sure coasters are fun and shouldn't be killing people, but then cars and planes shouldn't be either. It seems that different accidents are ranked differently and that for some reason amusement park accidents are weighted differently and a bigger issue even though they involve FAR less injury or death. It's totally out of proportion to the danger or problem. We worry about adding seatbelts to rides while children go to school on buses without belts at all. Even though they are at more risk on the bus! I just don't get it.

Woah, It's getting deep in here....I think I am going to bale before it gets past knee deep.

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