Patriot to debut at Worlds of Fun in 2006

I love those cheesy catch phrases and I'm not joking...

"Life, liberty, and the pursuit of weightlessness"

"The American Scream"

Pure genious. Thumbs up to WOF on this one.

2006 seems to be a big year for B&M if I do say so myself. Can't wait!

Cool...it looks as if we will get a construction updates as well. Who is the Monty Jasper of WOF?

It looks to be a really cool ride, but I was hoping they would get a little more creative than another Talon with a few variations. B&M seems to be more cookie cutter than they used to be. I remember when Kumba first came out. Half the elements on the ride were new. How about some more of that?

Rich

Nobody visiting Worlds of Fun is going to care if it's like another ride.

^^Kumba was also like the fourth B&M ever and the first of the sit down type...of course it's going to have many new elements, it was the first!

Patriot looks like a more "refined" version of Talon, which should end up being pretty amazing! We'll see on opening day, 2006.

JC

Huzzah! It's not a clone! Ever so slightly!

I'm sure it's going to be a huge hit in KC.

Nobody here cares that there are Batman clones scattered across the country, but one variant to Talon and people are in cahoots ;)

At first I was kinda disappointed that it seems like a short ride, BUT then I think about Wildfire at Silver Dollar City or Dominator at Geuga Lake and understand that longer doesn't always mean better! The Patriot not appearing to have a mid-course break says that it will be a fast-paced, exhilerating ride throughout.

/\ Patriot's lack of a mid-layout block section doesn't rule it from being another "like so many other recent" lukewarm rides from B&M.

For example, Cedar Fair's two other most recent B&M creations without mid-layout blocks - Hydra The Revenge and Silver Bullet have been reviewed by the majority as "too tame" and slow-paced in comparison to past B&M's.

But the ride hasn't even been built yet, and it may or may not be Batman The Ride intense. We just have to wait and see! I'm just sayin' don't make assumptions that because it lacks brakes in a certain area that it will be a fast-paced blow your mind out of the water coaster.

Looks like a great ride, with another good B&M getting added to the current landscape. Gotta hope that someday SFI makes an investment at Darien Lake so we can enjoy just what B&M has to offer.

Oh, BTW, who cares if it's like Talon, that's not a bad thing (If it ain't broke, don't fix it.)

GregBuzz said ..."Nobody here cares that there are Batman clones scattered across the country, but one variant to Talon and people are in cahoots"

Are you kidding me SF is bashed on a daily bases for having clones, yet people mention in a non negitive tone how CF made a similar layout to Talon and people want to get upset. I have heard not one person say anything majorly negitive about Patriot beside the fact it's similar to Talon yet CF praisers are ready to rip throats out, but when SF announced SFOG Goliath people frowned because of the Name and color scheme. All I'm saying is theres a strong bias favoring CF and anything they do.

I'm not pointing anyone out or poiting fingers just speaking in general, this is just my opinion no need for anyone to take offense not trying to start a flame war. Anyways regardless if it looks similar to Talon this is still a great addition to WOF, I'm still not feeling that color scheme lol not that it matters. Any Invert with an Immelman is a winner in my book:O).*** This post was edited by westcoaster man 9/7/2005 3:39:19 PM ***

Great looking ride. As for the Cloning arguement, here's my 2 pennies. While I understand Six Flags decision to clone Batman so many times, deep down you gotta wonder how many wonderful designs B&M and SF could have come up with if they chose to make them all original.

Even if this ride is similar to Talon, Cedar Fair has given us several unique layouts*** This post was edited by john13601 9/7/2005 4:19:01 PM ***

Anyone catch the "Trains" statistics for the Patriot on the WOF site?

"2 Trains - 28 Riders/Train"

Are we going to see a Zero Car ala Alpengeist, or is it a typo on the park's part?

Even though there's a Zero Car on Alpengeist, it still has 8 rows of seats.

(The capacity seems to indicate 32 riders per train)
*** This post was edited by SteelForceGuy 9/7/2005 4:55:14 PM ***

While the element order is exactly the same as Talon, the layout is much different. It looks more spread out with more downtime between the elements, especially between the loop and zero-g roll. My first reaction tells me that it is going to be much more tame than Talon.

If you watch the videos, theres only 7 rows in the train. Odd.

I had the exact same response as geneticfreak... it looks like Talon, except more drawn out, with all the punches lessened.

Primary differences: 1. Patriot's leveling out and turn to Talon's continuous upward curve following the loop. Patriot offers a break in Gs were Talon offers none. Advantage Talon.

2. Carousel turn after immelman... Patriot turns farther but also appears to rise higher. Push.

3. Patriot's pre-cork and post cork turns don't turn as far as Talon's. Less turning time ~ less sustained Gs. Advantage Talon.

While I still like the look of the ride, call me a pessimist but it appears to follow perfectly in the trend of tame B&M's ala Silver Bullet and Hydra.

On a purely positive note, congratulations again to Keith/Badnitrus on another fantastically fluid ride animation. Glad to see Goliath was no fluke =)

This isnt a clone. In fact, recently I think B&M has done less cloning and copying. The last few years, B&Ms have been getting more creative. I mean look at Silver Bullet and Hydra for examle. VERY unique B&M layouts. Even look a while ago at Superman Krypton Coaster. Another Unique ride. Dæmonen at Trivoli Gardens is a small unique B&M Floorless built last year. Nemesis Inferno at Thorpe Park, Superman at Warner Bros. Movie World in Madrid, Air at Alton Towers. These are all recent B&M rides and all are unique. Sure Patriot has the same elements as Talon, but ok, on an invert, what different elements do you want? The only other one is a cobra roll, and then youd be saying theyre copying Raptor. So the same elements are there. The layout is very different, its bigger, and honestly looks more fun than Talon. Another great ride from B&M.

-Jeff

I can't believe you all are discussing all this clone nonsense. The real issue here is how many times per hour are they going to play "God Bless the USA" in the station. I'm hearing rumors of mulitple sound systems so I'm guessing 50. 50 is such a Patriotic number.*** This post was edited by RavenTTD 9/7/2005 6:43:18 PM ***

I've heard that they are going to have a recorded spiel with background music much like you'd find on the newer coasters at CP (MF, WT, TTD). I'm hoping for a Hendrix's version of the Star Spangled Banner to be used, but then I know it was a protest song so who knows. ;)