Park food for dieters
I know I mentioned it before, but this diet is almost a carbon copy of the one my doctor put me on in 1982 to control my insulin levels for hypoglycemia.
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I assume just exercise more, try to eat a wider variety of foods, and cut back on portions all around ?
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I'll tell you what was imbalanced...my insulin level prior to changing the way I dealt with it. I'd start the morning with a cappucino and get hungry an hour and a half later. Then off to the snack machine for a bag or a bar that didn't seem to hit the mark. Then off to lunch and the insulin imbalance would swing farther and farther out of whack. By evening, I would hurt from being full, yet feel maddeningly compelled to eat more. This happened each and every night. It was a painful, aggravating, non-stop hell.
If you are developing insulin resistance, you are honestly going to need a technique specifically tailored to your problem. I lifted weights, pedaled bicycles, climbed Staimasters gulped Ephedra, cut down on meals (or desperately tried to), etc. etc. etc. Be it Atkins, Carb Addicts, The Zone, Sugar Busters, Protein Power it doesn't matter what--you're going to have to manage the fact that your body handles carbs differently than the average Joe.
The first day I tried a technique tailored to my specific problem, it was like flipping a switch. I ate 1/4 chicken, some spinach, some diet soda and said "What's that funny feeling?" It was this thing called fullness. It hadn't happened to me in years. I swore right then I didn't care if I lost anything...that feeling was gone. I liked it gone. A lot.
Let me temper what I'm saying tho--there is no magic pill, diet or solution that will let you ignore all principles of time and space. When I knocked off the first 40 pounds, I was also at the club at 5 am every morning working out. I don't dive face-first into buffets daily--when I wanna I wanna. DWeaver doesn't diet because he runs 3 miles a day...and I tell ya, when you run you don't wanna eat. Steady improvement is the result of long-term refinements in a permanent lifestyle change. The Carb Addicts technique just happens to be a central facet of mine. It's not for everybody, but if you have my problem it will give you equal footing for once.
-'Playa
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*** This post was edited by CoastaPlaya 4/10/2003 12:38:59 PM ***
I think the thing is that I don't eat until I'm stuffed every meal. I know a lot of people who will eat until they're bloated every time they sit down. It's not bad to feel hungry once in a while, or to go to bed with your stomach growling.
btw, Atkins of the Atkins Diet is in critical condition today after slipping on ice and hitting his head on the sidewalk.
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However, any "diet book" that tell you to go out and get diabetic urine test strips and test for ketones scares me to no end. Does anyone know what "ketones" are? ACETONE. Yup, that good old industrial solvent, is a by-product of fat metabolism in our bodies. Now, dieters will inevitably produce some. Producing a lot DOES demonstrate that yes, you're losing a lot of weight. But, producing them in measurable quantities like that puts a lot of strain on your system -- your kidneys need to filter that junk out of your bloodstream, since it's poison. For healthy people, there's no problem. For people whose kidneys are already under a strain (Type 1 diabetics come to mind immediately), that's not so good.
In many "diets", the rapid weight loss is just water, which means nothing. In diets like the Atkins diet, yes, the weight loss is fat, but you're putting your body under a large strain in the process. If you're healthy and will KEEP the weight off, then the long-term gains are fine, but a more controlled, gradual weight loss is healthier for most people.
All IMHO, of course. I'm NOT a medical professional, and I'll readily admit I'm highly opinionated AND have a different perspective than many of you, since I'm (theoretically) on a "diet" every single day of my life, weight loss needs or no.
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I guess I should have significantly lowered my Carb intake years ago, but while I stopped drinking soda that kinda helped me to maintain a certain weight without gaining much more.
Joe Carroll said:
Haha, what do you suggest for someone who doesn't eat meat at all, more or less survives on carbs, and has a weakness for cheese pizza ?I assume just exercise more, try to eat a wider variety of foods, and cut back on portions all around ?
Good question. My ears were too busy smoking from 'ridiculously imbalanced diet' comments to notice your question the first time around. Sorry.
Hmmmm....I guess you could try to concentrate on the deep green leafy veggies (spinach, kale, cabbage) and try using advocados as a stand-in for the fats. Of course, you can still avoid refined sugars and flours to the same benefit of others who avoid them. I'm not the least bit vegan but I'll still do a bowl of (almost) anything Kashii with soymilk during my bonus meal. It's very filling and all tree-hugging, folk-song-on-acoustic-guitar healthy, I think.
Look for 100% whole wheat breads and ignore the 7-grain stuff--that's refined flour with the other 'grains' tossed in for variety's sake 95% of the time.
As far as pizza goes....cheese is just fine from the Carb-conscious point of view...the problem is the crust. I guess you could go for an artsy-fartsy pizza with a whole grain crust (from a wood-fired oven with Norah Jones pretentiously crooning in the background) or bake your own.
Good luck. I'm not saying this as a medical professional or even a vegan--I'm just making stuff up. Try it anyway.
-'Playa
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*** This post was edited by CoastaPlaya 4/10/2003 1:08:11 PM ***
In a pinch, a good substitute for white bread if you can't find "100% whole wheat" types, is a good rye bread -- there's generally a decent fiber content to those. Agreed on the "7 Grains" stuff. When in doubt, read not only the ingredients but the nutrition breakdown, specifically the carbohydrate content and most importantly the fiber. Many "whole grain" breads end up not containing any more fiber than plain old white bread.
Of course, I don't buy bread at all most of the time -- I make my own whole-grain-flour breads at home (used to do it by hand, but I mostly use my trusty bread machine due to lack of time). I use the machine to make whole-grain dough for pizza, too.
Funny you should mention avocados -- for dinner last night I made a grilled chicken breast with freshly-made guacamole, and a small handful of corn chips. Cut out the corn chips, and the tomato I tossed in the guac, and that's even Atkins-certified, but I think the carb and yes, fiber, from the corn is important.
I'm also big on the green veggies -- spinach, broccolli, and such.
You know, for all the crap I eat sometimes, I still eat healthier than most people.
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*** This post was edited by GregLeg 4/10/2003 1:53:10 PM ***
My wife is a scientist, and therefore forms opinions based on data, drawing conclusions from identifying trends and patterns. While there has been research to identify the effectiveness of weight-loss in head-to-head diet comparisons, there has not been any long-term research on the effects of creating this imbalance.
There is research on what happens with regards to certain aspects of having a diet that centers on one food group, the most notable being the ketosis-induced kidney strain. There's a great deal of concern over the long-term effect on the cardio-vascular system as well.
I did a little research on your diet, 'Playa, and found an amazing array of responses. One study shows, strictly based on opinions of people trying it, a high approval rate the first two years, and utter contempt for it by those who tried it longer than two years. The problem? Increasing difficulty in maintaining weight and, well, bread is just damn good.
Regardless, the opinions of scientists and doctors who have looked at these various diets all say the same thing: Tipping the balance slightly in favor of one food group may have advantages for certain people, but not to the radical extent that these diets call for. Just like in life, the answer is rarely black and white, Republican or Democrat, liberal or conservative, etc. It's always something in the middle.
I'd consider myself a "carb addict" probably, but portion control and exercise, logically, do the work to lose the weight. Basal metabolic rate + exercise calories burned - food calories consumed = weight loss. And in the process I'm not selling myself short (though, as Steph points out to me, I don't eat as many vegetables as I should).
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Joe Carroll said:
Haha, what do you suggest for someone who doesn't eat meat at all, more or less survives on carbs, and has a weakness for cheese pizza ?
I'm not much of a vegetarian anymore but I do keep my meat eating to a minimum.
I also have a weakness for pizza but I try to avoid anything pre-made. I make make my own crust with whole wheat flour and load up on healthy toppings. Pile on the broccoli, onions, tomatos, green peppers, and spinach. You won't need to eat as many slices and you get a healthy serving of veggies.
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Jeff said:
I did a little research on your diet, 'Playa, and found an amazing array of responses...utter contempt for it by those who tried it longer than two years.. The problem? ....bread is just damn good.
Heeee hee hee hee hee.
You see, this is an example of the fallacy of 'research' and 'conclusions' based on said 'studied' opinion. When the research is performed in support of a foregone conclusion, it isn't research at all.
Apparently, you didn't do sufficient research on my particular diet to realize you can eat bread every day. Not just whole grain--Wonder Bread. You can slather it with peanut butter, margarine, toast it, squash it your fist into a little squishy blob and shove down the hatch every day. Maybe not twice a day, but every day? You bet. Half a loaf if you wanna.
You see, I may have chosen to restrict my food choices even beyond their particular standards--but that's just me.
And now I'm going to step completely beyond the realm of 'research', 'study' and all a that blah blah to say one more thing: Losing 10 pounds means absolutely nothing. Any knucklehead can drop 10 pounds. Ya know why? Cuz I said so, that's why. Any amount of water loss, muscle loss, food deprivation or combination of the above can do it for you. That doesn't indicate anything you're trying is of lasting success. How many people do you know who have done the 'I've dropped ten pounds' dance all around their home or office right before the weight-loss bungee cord sends them flying back heavenward? Think about it. Drink a 32-ounce glass of water and you've just gained two pounds. See how easy that was?
-'Playa
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*** This post was edited by CoastaPlaya 4/10/2003 3:23:57 PM ***
CoastaPlaya said:
You can slather it with peanut butter, margarine, toast it, squash it your fist into a little squishy blob and shove down the hatch every day.
See, there's MY problem....I keep putting food in my pie-hole, and digestion takes over, and I never lose weight....from now on, I'm trying the *hatch* method...;)
Honestly, in general, for MOST people, a varied diet following the food pyramid, in moderation, and a decent amount of exercise...that's the best bet....
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I see so many people say 'I'm doing the Atkins diet' when what they really mean is I'm eating lots of fat and skipping carbohydrates when I feel like it. Atkins can help you lose weight, but you really have to follow the actual plan and NOT cheat. cheating while tying to do the atkins plan blows the whole thing (The point of the plan is to actually deprive your body of carbs to the point it changes the way it uses fuel... eating one piece of bread or fruit a day during low carb periods prevents this from happening)
Anyway, I'm personally a proponent of moderation. Most 'health nazis' spout dogma which induce feelings of guilt when you don't do what they say, which ultimately leads to weight gain instead of loss. It comes down to a change of attitude. Change your attitude towards food, exercise, and your attitude towards yourself. Stop eating what I call 'Stupid Calories', which you do out of reflex but don't actually enjoy - drinking soda constantly, automatically ordering fries with a hamburger, eating a bag of chips in front of the TV every night.
After a life of being way overweight I was able to lose 100 pounds 4 years ago by responding to the urge to eat something bad with the thought 'If i eat this I'll be happy for about 10 seconds. If I don't it'll help me be happy for a lot longer'.
My primary motivator was to lose enough weight to be able to skydive, but the secondary benefit was that I was finally able to sit in the front seat in Alpengeist... with room to spare!!
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So basically, if you didn't want to do the Atkins diet or something similar, simply reduce your carb content keeping it to a minimum with the high-glycemic carbs, up your healthy fats a bit and eat lots of protein. That's the key. Protein. Especially if you lift. You need it to repair and rebuild your muscles after a workout, so the more you have, the better off you are.
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