Park food for dieters

Calories are what you should be concerned about. They are the measure of actual energy in a given food product.

A calorie is the amount of heat required at a pressure of one atmosphere [sea level} to raise the temperature of one gram of water one degree Celsius. The more calories you eat, the more energy your taking on.

There are three main catorgorys of calorie soruces.

-Fat is the most concentranted source of energy with approx. 9 calories per gram. You really need to watch fat. Monounsaturated fat is the best for you, Polyunsaturated comes in close second, saturated fat sits way back in third place.

-Carbohydrates [suger and fiber] are less concetrated than fat at approximently 4 calories per gram but don't let that mislead you. Some people get the idea that no fat means they can eat as much of it as they want without gaining weight.... WRONG! I'm drinking a can of mountain dew right now. It has 46 grams suger and totals at 15% of my daily need for carbs. That is a lot.

-Protein has approximently 4 calories per gram but isn't too important.

Putting it all together with calories. Assume that you require 2000 calories. This is just a random tally also assuming you eat breakfast lunch and dinner without anytthing else between.

Here is the breakfast of champions, pop tarts and milk. 2 pop tarts [2 pastrys in one package, who doesn't eat two?] with 200 calories per pastrys is 400 calories total. One 8oz. glass of 2% milk has 130 calories. That totals to a 530 calorie breakfast. Not bad.

You go to burger king for lunch. Whopper with cheese value meal king sized. The Whopper has 760 calories. The kingsized fries has 590 calories. I'll just ignore the hundreds of calories in the drink for now. The whopper and fries total at 1350 calories. Your total so for is 1880 without the drink, if you add the drink to it, it'll be over 2000 calories for sure.Did I mention that all unused calories get stored as fat? Going over 500 calories per week is a very easy thing to do if your not careful. One pound of fat is about 3500 calories, 500 calories over your daliy requirements will gain you one point of fat per week. 1000 calories per day over will gain you 2 pounds per week. In the long run, it adds up.

Fast foods including park food is usually high in calories thus bad for you. If you only eat it once in a great while, it's not a problem. Fast food bites you since it's so convenient. I know some people that eat it several times per week. It's a bad habit to get into fast food.

For weight loss, the magic number is 1-2 lb's per week. That is the most you should lose in over the course of a week. Every diet, and I mean EVERY one shouldn't promise more than that in a given week. If it does, it's a waste of your time.

There are ways to lose more than that, but it uses extreme workouts. One, for example requires you to job in winter cloths on a hot day. You'll burn off lots of weight, but you'll probably wish you were dead while doing so.Football players buringing 6-8 thousand calories in a game is possible also. The more exercise you get, the better.

'Eat less and exercise more' is a very true statement.

I would also include stuff about metabolism and caloric needs, but I'm sick of typing. :) Ok, I'll make it breif

Metabolism is your bodys current ability to burn energy. High metabolism means higher caloric needs. Metabolism is reduced when you don't get enough calories which is caloric shock which is your bodys ability to cope with long periods without food. This means that if you go on an extreme diet, you lose a lot of weight in the initial period, but is kills your metabolism. When you go back to your old eating habits, then you gain it right back.

Caloric needs is the amount of calories you need to stay at the same weight. There are calculators on the internet that tell you what you need. Everyone needs particular amounts of calories per week. This is usually 1500-3000 calories per day.

Ok, maybe that wasn't exactly breif...

Are you saying diets without physical exercise, because I lost 40 pounds in a month before.

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When I say wight I mean fat wight. Most people lose water weight when they exercise and consiter it losed fat. Your made up of something like 70% water by weight. If you sweat it out, you will lose weight and even look somewhat better, but it's misleading as you can quickly gain it back.

Dehydration is a problem depending on how bad. It actually has an effect on your health

With any diet, your biggest helper at a park can be a cooler in you trunk. The cooler lets you bring the foods that fit you diet. It's a bit of a pain to have to go out of the park to eat, but it's worth it in the long run.
I had tried Atkins diet and it doesn't work for me. Its very very hard. I try never to eat at parks. I drink water and thats about it.
I lost a bunch of weight walking around the parks. Thats always a good diet!
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I'm not on a diet, but since the second week of January, I've managed to drop more than twelve pounds. I don't know how many more, because when I started my weight exceeded the mechanical limits of the scale I was using. Now, twelve pounds isn't a whole lot, but it works out to about a pound a week. The good thing about that is that it's a rate of progress that doesn't seem to screw up the metabolism.

What I have done has been to quit going out to lunch every day. I don't go hungry, but because I am single, it's real difficult to prepare one meal...and because of profitability issues, lunch portions are out of control. I end up with a larger dinner, perhaps, but overall, I'm eating more sensibly. The result is that I'm getting plenty to eat, I eat pretty much whatever I want, (I'm not on a diet, remember?) and I've been dropping pounds. I do tend to prefer proteins to carbohydrates, but I am enough of a Coke addict (and I can't touch the non-sugar stuff) that I'm gonna get plenty of those anyway.

Of course, once the parks open, this will all be moot anyway because first of all the exercise kicks in, and people who have suffered through park visits with me know I usually don't eat much in the parks anyway... :)

--Dave Althoff, Jr.
(was >250#...am now closer to 238# and generally shrinking...)

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My husband and I started the Atkin's Diet in January. We take a mutlivitamin every day, along with the Atkins Dieter's Advantage Supplement.

We've adjusted the diet in the past month, adding fruit and vegetable carbs, and we treat ourselves once a week...he loves his weekly pizza...but we don't over-eat. In fact, we feel bloated if we do.

We drink LOTS of water, and diet pop (generally only once a day). We don't feel deprived, and the fruit takes care of any sugar cravings (and is good for us).

What we HAVE realized is that we do not crave the carbs anymore. I'm happy that both my son and husband are eating much more fruit and no more sugary crap, which is much healthier IMO.

Although Atkins allows for fatty foods (the fatty foods keep your metabolism working since it doesn't have the carbs to process), we are careful not to overdo it.

Above all, it's helped us to change our eating habits, which is better in the long run.

BTW, my husband has lost 3 inches from his waist, and 2 from his chest. He's confident he'll fit into Wicked Twister this year...his reason for losing the weight.

As for park food, we are going to consider our trips our "splurge" days, and consider the exercise we'll be getting walking around all day as a partial counter effect.

If interested, I've been keeping an Atkin's Diet Journal: www.webtechnik.com/ebony
You can access it from the index on the left.

CPLady: 3 months, 15 pounds lighter and feeling better than I have in years.

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Cool everyone, it's good to know that there have been several Atkins Success Stories. I just started day 2 here and I know it's a long road ahead, but if I try my best, it will work for me.

Im getting his recommened menu of foods and I have plenty of vitamins including my multi. and a fiber one, to help keep me regular.

I haven't drunk pop for over two years, but I have taken in more juice, chips, ice cream and stuff like that, which is terrible. Im at 263# right now, and by the time Cedar Opens, I hope to at least be at 230#. Thats my short-term goal, because if I have get myself in wth a Shoe-horn on the Force right now, then I'll have the same problem with Dragster. :(

In this country right now, Obesity has climbed from 40% of Americans to over 60% in less than 10 years. We are the fattest country in the world because we have more snack foods and junk foods than anyone else. Atkins advice to grocery shopping is to stay on the outer perimeter of the store and stay away from the middle (since thats where most of the bad processed stuff lives)

Y'know, Greg brought up a really good point...

People seem to have forgotten how the human body works. It is (in general) made of calcium and protein, it is lubricated and insulated with fats, and it runs on carbohydrates. Thing is, between hysterical news stories, and the well-intentioned lousy pop science of outfits like the Center for Science in the Public Interest, we have dramatically demonized fat in the past few years to the point that a ridiculous number of products are "low fat", and because everybody is so "fat" that's all anybody cares about. But those low-fat products are loaded with carbohydrates (mostly sugar to make it not taste like cardboard) and as a result have these sky-high calorie counts...and as a result, as a Nation, we're eating less and less fat, while growing fatter and fatter. Even worse, the anti-carniverous lobby has done such a good job of convincing people that "meat = bad for you" that the American diet is skewing more and more to heavy carb-loading instead of protein. Meanwhile, if you really want to do something about not being so big and heavy, you gotta get more protein and less carb. Which these days can be difficult, just from a practical standpoint because of the bad attitude towards food out there.

--Dave Althoff, Jr.

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That's so true, Rideman! The french, Italians and Germans all eat foods high in fat, yet it's the Americans who are the most obese.

Since I've been on Atkins, I've done a ton of label reading. Compare the "low fat" items with the regular items, and you consistently see the same thing. Higher calories and much higher carbohydrates.

And John Peck, good luck. The hardest part of Atkins is the first week. Once you've kicked the carb addiction, it gets much easier.

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And your idea about the cooler is a cool one. Parks should allow people to picnic in a common area (like the Trolley Park of the days of old). Then, they send in their area host spies to see what everyone is eating, and then sell it there to save folks the trouble of lugging the cooler around (and worrying about Yogi the Bear coming along),

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"It's not a Too-mah!" - Arnold after riding Batman the Ride

**Sigh** Only in America do people order a x-large frie, triple cheeseburger and diet coke.

I think exercise is better than dieting.

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I have a caution about coolers. I had a cooler in the back of my Protege5, which has a cover in the back, and as we left Holiday World we started hearing popping noises. I had turned on the air-conditioning because of the Indiana heat, and the soda cans started exploded one by one because of the sudden temperature change.
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I just started a diet today as well. It's great to find others here that are in the same predicament as I am and that we can talk to each other. It's often very difficult for me to diet as I work at Pizza Hut and when you have pizzas flashing in front of your face all day long, it gets really difficult to resist. I have an upper leg in the 'war on flab' and that is that I used to drink nothing but Diet Pepsi and now have switched pretty much over to nothing but water and the occasional caffeine free Diet Pepsi. (keep in mind that even though it may be a diet drink, if it contains caffeine, it will mess with your appetite.)

I had no trouble getting into MF, WT or any other ride at any park last year but I just feel really dumpy lately and want to get rid of all this excess weight. A girl at work is going on it with me and is my "support system" as I am hers. It's always very important (and much easier) to have someone on a diet with you. :) Good luck to all dieters involved and may we all feel better for dropping the pounds. :)

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I agree with the buddy system approach. My wife and I are also in this together. Makes it much easier not to stray! I was on SFMW's Vertical Velocity last Friday. At 6', 240, I fit comfortably, but with not much room to spare, so it is clearly time to drop a few pounds around the middle. I had plenty of room on Roar, but am down to my last click there, too. :(

As for exercise, I've been an on-and-off user of The Firm's videos (coming soon to an informercial near you!). I really like the combination of high-rep, low-weight lifting and aerobic workout. I (no longer) want to Be Huge, so heavy weights are no longer interesting to me. But, when I stick to only running/biking/whatever, I'm a bit less toned upper-body-wise than I'd like. These workouts are not easy, but they are definitely rewarding.

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CPLady: If Atkins has worked so far for your hubby, he really might wanna read the Carb Addicts book too. I'm telling you, between January and May 98 I went from barely fitting 40" pants to wearing 36"straight-leg and from 48" double-breasted suits to about a 42" or 43" depending on the shoulder cut. People who look at my old pictures crap their pants. And I can do this every single day of my life forever. There's no 'on' or 'off' this thing.

-'Playa

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The CPlaya 100--6 days, 9 parks, 47 coasters, 2037 miles and a winner.....LoCoSuMo.

I haven't been on a diet in years because they just don't work long term. I used to be a big guy at 260lbs, and about 5 years ago I lost about 80lbs and have kept it off ever since. My average weight is now 185, and I'm 6'1.

I did it by leaving the diets alone, and just eliminating foods that slow my body down(sugar and bread), and staying active. I run 3 miles a day and lift weights when I can. When I go to amusement parks, I make sure to eat a *huge* breakfast before hand so that I'm not hungry. I then spend the rest of the day burning it off on my neighborhood Vekoma ;)

If I must snack on something, it's usually butter-less popcorn or a salt-less pretzel. Other than that, stay away from park food, it's not my friend.

Of course, every body type is different, and what works for me may not work for you.

BTW, I once lost 5 pounds in two days just walking around SFMM in 95 degree heat ;)

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As someone who has lost 60lbs over the past 9 months, I can say that moderation is the way to go. The core of the program I'm on (Weight Watchers) is that you can eat anything, but only so much. You're give a total number of "points" for the day, and each food item you eat has a point value based on calories, fat, and fiber grams. Once you hit your limit for the day, that's it. Because you only have so many points, you learn to budget them, so you lean more towards the low-point foods like veggies and stay away from the high-poin foods like pizza or burgers. You can carry over a limited number of unused points from day to day, so I tend to cut back a bit on Fridays and Saturdays so I can be a little more bad on Sunday park visits. Exercise can be used to buy back points. 30 minutes of running can by back about 20% of my daily points. I figure

I started this program right after the 4th of July last summer and I found that you can indeed find park food that works, but you've got to be choosy. Stay away from walk-up stands and go to the sit downs. You're options are much better there. Grilled chicken is your friend :)

Good luck!!!

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CPLady's avatar
Thanks, Playa, we'll likely check that out. Frankly, my husband and I agree that we could stay on a low carb diet forever at this point. Note I didn't say NO CARB. Even now we are eating a few more carbs than Atkins recommends, and we are still losing weight.

Cutting out all the rice, bread and pasta, and sticking to water and caffiene free diet drinks has made a big difference. We can still cheat with those items once a week, so long as we don't go overboard.

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Jeff's avatar
I agree with Greg and Scott... moderation is the way to go. Atkins is bad. Sure, you're losing the weight, but you're also loading up on cholesterol, ignoring the fiber to control that cholesterol and throwing off your entire body chemistry. Stephanie (my biologist wife) recently read a scientific study that suggested Atkins throws your body chemistry so out of whack that you actually smell different.

The old fundamental of balancing your diet and portion control makes sense. It's simple, find your basal metabolic rate per week (number of calories you burn per week sitting on your ass), consume fewer calories than that, then subtract for the number of calories burned during exercise. That's how much you'll lose, a pound for every 3500 calories. The only caveat is that you can't over-do it on cutting back food because your metabolism slows down, your body thinking that you're starving.

It works... I lost 10 pounds in a month by keeping my weekly calorie intake down and playing DDR five times a week for 30 minutes or more. And get this, I can to this day go to Burger King, get a regular .89 burger, a baked potato and a medium soda every day and still maintain that weight (that's 855 calories, leaving 1100 for the rest of the day plus whatever I do in exercise).

Dieting should be common sense, not these ridiculous imbalanced "diets." You have to make lifestyle changes, pure and simple. You need to exercise, you need to control portions. You'd be surprised at what cutting out soda alone will do.

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