gatorwoodie said:
P.S., a Schwarkopf Wildcat in the dark has always been something I wanted to ride,
I agree so much! Maybe CP could pull a disaster transport and enclone it, and add strobe lights and other neat things! Or, make the tracks glow under a blacklight :)
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S&S Turbo Drops....yumm yumm
Oh Yes !! That will be a definant ride, a VERY big one has been planned.
SFMWManiac87 said:
Don't forget a "land" for the kids. Like Looney Toons Seaport or Kidzville.
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Oh Yeah ! The little ones will love the way the kddie area will be set up, loads of rides for them.
1. River Rapids Ride
2. A Shoot-the-Chutes (i.e. Snake River Falls at CP)
3. A log flume
4. Observation Tower (would make for an identifiable landmark people would look for when approaching the park).
5. Shows - have at least three or four different musical shows and maybe a band to stroll the midways.
6. Don't just put in food stands but try and offer a larger variety (Chinese, German, Italian, Mexican, etc.) A nice sit down waitress served establishment would be nice as well as a food court or buffet.
7. If you are thinking of a skycoaster, I would definitely consider adding something like VertiGo at CP. Awesome attraction.
8. Costume characters to serve as ambassadors of fun to meet and greet your guests in the morninig. Plus they will help in deciding how to theme your children's ride section.
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Like I've mentioned before, I think it's great that you're out there trying to learn about all of this stuff. Rather than suggest rides and such, let me try something different -
If you're interested in designing amusement and theme parks; that is, master planning, traffic pattern analysis, and overall concept development, there are some things you should probably look into.
Study architecture, environmental design and urban planning, landscape architecture, a bit of psychology (color, music, etc.). A background with art in it is useful, too, because being able to sketch ideas and concepts is crucial.
If you're interested in designing and planning specific attractions - find a field you love and get really, really good at it. If it's blue-sky concept development, hone your artistic and writing skills. If it's control system management, get an engineering degree. There are books out there for a lot of this stuff.
Finally, if you're only interested in owning and running a profitable theme park, learn to understand the role these other people will play in your park. You may ideas as to what you want, but always have people who specialize in this sort of thing at your wing - and take them seriously! If you're only interested in the ownership and operations, I'd suggest pursuing a business field.
There are a million different variables and factors that need to be taken into account with the construction of any ride. Asking the general public what they want isn't always useful, especially at a site like Coasterbuzz. Coasterbuzz provides a very small sample of the community that visits these parks, and our interests are not necessarily representative of those of the public. In fact, I'd venture to guess that most of the public doesn't know what they want. To them, a Huss Jump is essentially the same as the Tea Cups and the Top Spin. When it comes to esoteric, somewhat technically oriented things such as amusement park rides, the public is, as a rule, uninterested. Instead, the feeling they get while riding is what's most important.
I can't possibly go into all of the theory regarding park design here. But, just know that there's a lot of theory, and I think you may be missing the big point of all of this. Case in point - a 10 acre waterpark isn't profitable just because it's a waterpark, or because it's 10 acres instead of 9 or 11. It'll be profitable because it's built in a market that can support it, and because it provides a unique, fun experience that your guests can't get at that 'other guy', down the road.
Asfor the business side, I just yesterday made plans for a business class I will be taking next tuseday,they will also be able to provide business counseling to guide me throught the Entire project as well.
Thank you for bringing that up.
bigkirby said:
"10 acres would be nice. Darkrides and flumes are good choices. And SFGRAMBoy20, everyone always whines that no one from the industry ever asks our opinion; now it's time so please don't critisize him, k? Thanks!"
Whoa, hold on a second here. Since when is Titan_Fan "in the industry?" To me, he sounds like a 13 year old SFoT local who has some ambitious goals -- however, definitely NOT in the industry.
Maybe I missed something a while back, but from what I've gathered through his posts (spelling, questions, etc) he's definitely not a part of the amusement industry.
How old are you Titan_Fan?
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Cedar Piont is nothing with out MF. Come to SFMM and see whats happening. Just give us a Giga coaster and bam. CP out of the pic.
All I want to know is, how many independantly owned parks have started up from scratch in the last few years? I really don't know but most of the family parks have been around for a while and even then they are smaller than what this kid is talking about. Unless you have millions (lots of millions) nobody is going to build a park from scratch that can rival the big corporate parks. And while nothing has been said of rivaling the big parks, we have discussed B&M, Intamin giga and hyper coasters, CCI, GCI, Arrow and now other rides. That sounds like quite a lot of rides for a brand new park to open with. It will take years to cover the initial capital spent on this park. Titan_Fan, let me know if you ever get anything more than a couple of flat rides in a parking lot (and a travelling fair doesn't count!)
*** This post was edited by TITAN_FAN_13 on 10/23/2001. ***
First off, calm yourself. I posted absolutely nothing negative about you or your project. I just commented to someone else who said you were in the industry, when you most certainly (from what I can tell) are not. Once again, I ask how old you are. Also, what business class are you taking? I think it's great you want to start your own park. I just don't want people getting the idea that you're already in the business, when it's just not true.
How old are you?
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Cedar Piont is nothing with out MF. Come to SFMM and see whats happening. Just give us a Giga coaster and bam. CP out of the pic.
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