Orlando theme parks add metal detectors

I said I want going to go until after the new year, because of the crowds, but Simon was bouncing off the walls so I decided to chance it.

At Epcot, there are two magnetometers, and the people going through them appears random from a distance. I say from a distance, because going through the no-bag entrance, I wasn't even close.

Effective against gun fanatics, maybe, but not terrorism.

You know what the most effective attack a terrorist could pull right now would be?

Detonate a bomb bag, or vest, while in the middle of the crowd waiting to go through the detectors.

I feel like I shouldn't even be typing this in a public forum, but I'm sure that they've already thought of it. Besides, do terrorists read coaster forums?

Tower of Terrorists?

You know, I find it interesting that some of the same people that made fun of Travis when he said he felt his rights were violated by pay to
Cut (I'm paraphrasing) are now some of the same people who argue their rights are being taken away at a private entity because of metal detectors. The terrorists have indeed won. LOL

I don't think it's a violation of my rights, but it does feel like a complete waste of my time.

Which is my problem with standing in long ride queues too!

At least I'm consistent.

Air travel already offers you the ability to pay more to avoid the worst of the waits at security *and* be subject to lower-intensity security checks---PreCheck and Global Entry, among others.

It's only a matter of time before the theme parks do likewise.

Tekwardo said:

The terrorists have indeed won. LOL

Every time an American says I'll trade away some of my liberty in exchange for security, a terrorist dances a happy dance. They want us to be scared. (Also: Republican candidates for president, and you know which ones you are, please stop referring to ISIS as a caliphate. It's not, and embracing their preferred description of themselves is another check mark in their win column.)

Terrorists have nothing to do with private entities. They don't care. They really don't. your Liberty is not being taken by this going on at theme parks. Because parks are not a right. They're entertainment. If you don't like what they do, by all means stay away.

You're right. Terrorists don't care about our liberties or our rights. They don't care whether we're on public land or private property.

What they care about, whether they're ISIS or Dylann Roof, is using violence to create terror. If you want to play into the hands of terrorists, go ahead.

You can continue to make the ridiculous accusation against me and be the waiver of the flag all you want. Metal detectors in private theme parks are not what you're making them. They're not. You can continue to deny that and accuse people of whatever you want and be as insulting as you can be. You're wrong in this.

I don't even understand what it is that you're arguing. If we change the way we conduct ourselves, and privacy and liberties suffer, it doesn't matter if it's private entities or government. I find it naive to think they aren't completely intertwined.

Tekwardo said:

You know, I find it interesting that some of the same people that made fun of Travis when he said he felt his rights were violated by pay to
Cut (I'm paraphrasing) are now some of the same people who argue their rights are being taken away at a private entity because of metal detectors. The terrorists have indeed won. LOL

Damn right you're paraphrasing. I never said my rights were being violated. Please leave me alone.

Seriously Travis, just because I mention you in a post doesn't mean I'm bothering you. Put your big boy pants on.

So, Jeff, you always say that a free market will regulate itself. Why is that different here? You folks argue that because *some* people use this as an overreaction to 'feel safer from the terrorists' that it must be the majority and, oh my god! The country is insane because everyone is afraid of the terrorists!

Where is the info to back that up? Perhaps, instead if people capitulating to government fear mongering and terrorists, the vast majority simply don't care that private entities are doing this because it, like pay to cut, isn't that much of an inconvenience, and they understand that entertainment is not a right.

The country is insane with disproportionate fear. There's no other way I can explain the ridiculous political discourse we have today. And the free market does tend to regulate itself and is dramatically influenced by... wait for it... everything.

Just because they preach it on
The news and find a couple people who agree to interview doesn't mean the country is actuall paralyzed with fear.

I struggle with the disproportionate fear angle too. No one that I know has even mentioned terrorism or being afraid of anything that has happened. Life seems pretty normal where I live to me.

I generally agree that the "free market" does tend to be self-correcting and tends toward a steady-state equilibrium.

That being said, it's a concept in theory only. Our economy for instance, has been rigged to favor those who have invested heavily in corrupting our political system.

Tekwardo said:

Just because they preach it on
The news and find a couple people who agree to interview doesn't mean the country is actuall paralyzed with fear.

It of course ebbs and flows relative to how long ago the most recent attack was, but when at its high points, dealing with terrorism is a pretty big issue.

And I don't know why you keep coming back to the "private entity", "entertainment is not a right" angle. Who here aside from you is arguing that point?

The arguement here is that private entities installing metal detectors are taking away your rights.