Oh Noes! SFMM wants beer!

Monday, October 11, 2010 5:05 PM

Won't someone please think of the children!

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Monday, October 11, 2010 5:42 PM

I'm not American, but I have a feeling no one will care Magic Mountain wants to serve beer. I've visited California, and most Californians seem sensible and down to earth.

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Monday, October 11, 2010 6:24 PM

Oh geez. What's next? A Brewery themed haunted house!?

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Monday, October 11, 2010 7:09 PM

That's seriously a good idea, Raven-Phile. Have drunken ghosts haunting an abandoned brewery that is half burnt down (The fire is how the ghosts, who are old employees, died). Or... the brewery could be a cover-up for something more scientific and sinister, and there are drunk zombies chasing visitors.

The possibilities are endless with that one. We should go into business together. :)

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Monday, October 11, 2010 7:23 PM

Man, you have no idea how much I'd love to do that. I've always wanted to run a haunted house. I'd do it right, too - none of this cheesy crap. Good effects and makeup, pls.

You know, several of the haunted houses around me this year are offering front-of-the-line passes, too. :)

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Monday, October 11, 2010 7:35 PM

I reluctantly used a front-of-the-line pass a few years ago when I went to the big haunt at the Penn State Penitentiary in Phili. I waited about 5 minutes, and payed close to $30 extra, if I recall correctly.

I used to be a haunt designer, and helped run the haunt, back in Altoona, PA. It was a blast. We didn't have the extra money to buy all of the amazing effects, but we had some awesome artist who volunteered to paint our props, and some amazing makeup artists too, which included me.

Here in hick town WV, my family and I put on a huge Halloween party, complete with our large yearly home haunt. We have accumulated so much scary stuff to put in our haunt over the years. Each years haunt is multi-themed. I can't wait. All my CoasterBuzz friends are invited, by the way.

And to bring this post on topic, we invite families, have kids games and kids contests, but we also serve beer!

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Monday, October 11, 2010 8:33 PM

If the Governator gets his way, SFMM might get a license for weed, too.
http://caivn.org/article/2010/10/11/generation-gap-defines-prop-19-divide

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Monday, October 11, 2010 8:51 PM

Packing my bags for California.

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Monday, October 11, 2010 11:25 PM

^^ Might be the only way CA can close their budget deficit. Legalize it then tax the hell out of it. But then, it is CA, so they'll probably go further into the hole by the time they subsidize it and give most of it away to the needy.

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Tuesday, October 12, 2010 11:01 AM

Most economic analyses I've seen suggest the price will actually go lower if it is legalized beyond medical uses---even with heavy taxation. There's still enough friction in the current system to drive up prices.

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Tuesday, October 12, 2010 11:57 AM

"Magic Mountain" will take on an entirely new meaning if Prop 19 passes.

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Tuesday, October 12, 2010 12:32 PM

Somehow, I don't picture the local neighborhood dealer being all that eager to register a sole proprietorship and fill out 1099's.

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Tuesday, October 12, 2010 12:40 PM

Nonsense. Why wouldn't they? If they can operate above the board, they've removed a fair amount of their operating cost right off the bat. Not to mention that being able to operate with impunity is desirable.

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Tuesday, October 12, 2010 1:08 PM

Why would they? They're already getting 100% of the profits without paying taxes to do something that is currently illegal, meaning they don't care to do something illegal and profit for it. Why would that change? And knowing the dealers that I do (In my line of work, you get to know a lot), they're not paying any taxes other than sales tax (if they're not already getting a 5 finger discount), so why would they start now?

Being in the work that I do, and coming from where I come from, I can tell you that the 'local dealers' wouldn't turn legit if pot was legalized in every state. But as with anything, depending on who is cheaper, they may go out of business, but would definitely lose a portion of their customer base.

They've made a profit doing it illegally. Just because they CAN do it legally doesnt' mean they will, otherwise, you wouldn't have illegal firearms trade, illegal alcohol being made and sold (trust me it still happens, even in larger areas), or illegal gambling in states where gambling is legal.

Last edited by Tekwardo, Tuesday, October 12, 2010 1:09 PM
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Tuesday, October 12, 2010 1:16 PM

Wouldn't drug stores become the dealers and big pharm the suppliers?

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Tuesday, October 12, 2010 1:19 PM

GoBucks89 said:
Wouldn't drug stores become the dealers and big pharm the suppliers?

Yeah, I've always been of the mindset that legalization makes weed big business and puts 'dealers' out of business.

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Tuesday, October 12, 2010 1:24 PM

Plus most drug stores sell snacks so it seems like a natural fit. :)

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Tuesday, October 12, 2010 1:36 PM

Being in the work that I do, and coming from where I come from, I can tell you that the 'local dealers' wouldn't turn legit if pot was legalized in every state. But as with anything, depending on who is cheaper, they may go out of business, but would definitely lose a portion of their customer base.

I think this part is the important part. If a customer has a choice between legal and illegal means, there is strong incentive to go the legal route, unless the illegal route is significantly *less* expensive.

It would be interesting to know data on sales in medical marijuana states. My vague sense from reading a few articles is that prices through dispensaries are higher than they would be from "your guy", but still many people have gone the dispensary route---the higher price is repaid by eliminating the risk of legal entanglements.

To put it another way: how many moonshiners do you know? My guess: not many. But, the rum runners and 'shiners weren't the guys who formed Seagrams and InBev. That was "bidnessmen."

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Tuesday, October 12, 2010 1:43 PM

Yeah, and I definitely think that legalizing it would make purchasers more inclined to go the legal route, but I dont' think it would affect dealers in that they would want to become legit. They likely wouldn't even be allowed to in the first place, as, like was mentioned, you'd probably get it from a Pharmacy.

And if it went really legal, then your nearest Sheetz would sell it.

And trust me when I say, big business would likely sell it cheap enough for people to buy it.

But the current dealers wouldn't go legit.

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Tuesday, October 12, 2010 1:46 PM

how many moonshiners do you know?

Coming from West Virginia, I actually know more than just a few ;). Plenty of people in the mountains make homemade wines, moonshine, and other types of alcohol.

Peach and Apple Cinnamon moonshine, when made right, will go down smooth and knock you out after one drink.

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