Notorious Coasters

Tuesday, July 18, 2006 12:42 PM
while browsing the dragon khan topic i came across an idea. In your opinion what are so some of the most notorious coasters ever built.
by Notorious i mean like cystal beach cyclone or the son of beast. wood or steel just name some and why.
Tuesday, July 18, 2006 1:08 PM
Notorious for what? Height? Speed? Roughness? Number of inversions?

The 3 definitions I came up with for the word notorious are:

"Known widely and usually unfavorably; infamous"

"generally known and talked of"

"having an exceedingly bad reputation"

So, which do you prefer we use?

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Tuesday, July 18, 2006 1:18 PM
Acoustic Viscosity's avatar Mindbender (Canada) - wicked G's and the fatal derailment.

Crystal Beach Cyclone - had a nurse on hand

"Insert Intamin coaster here" - reliability and tendancy to eject riders

Vekoma GIB's - valley

Windjammer - jammed in the wind

AV Matt
Long live the Big Bad Wolf

Tuesday, July 18, 2006 1:31 PM
Puritas Springs Cyclone. why? It is a Cleveland Legend and was responsible for several injuries way back when.
There were even several lawsuits, which back then, didn't happen often.

It lasted from 1928 to 1958.
Designer: John a miller.

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Tuesday, July 18, 2006 1:47 PM
Steel Phantom at Kennywood. This was the second hypercoaster built (following Magnum XL-200) and was a recordbreaker regarding speed and drop length. Unfortunately, it was also a notorious head banger. Riders were even instructed to remove earrings before they rode.

KW finally responded by removing the loops in favor of other elements and replacing the Arrow over the head horsecollar restraints with individual lapbars. The result was Phantom's Revenge which has received a much better response from riders.

Arthur Bahl

Tuesday, July 18, 2006 2:02 PM
When I think "notorious" and "coaster" I think:
  1. Hercules
  2. Crystal Beach Cyclone
  3. Son of Beast
  4. Beast
  5. Magnum XL200

Tuesday, July 18, 2006 2:12 PM
SFoGswim's avatar At 160' high, Steel Phantom was no hyper coaster by any stretch of the imagination.
Welcome back, red train, how was your ride?!
Tuesday, July 18, 2006 2:15 PM
ApolloAndy's avatar Oh gosh. Let's not get into this one...

It's the same discussion as "Is S:TE a coaster?" It's all semantics and in the end, nobody really cares.

Hobbes: "What's the point of attaching a number to everything you do?"
Calvin: "If your numbers go up, it means you're having more fun."

Tuesday, July 18, 2006 2:20 PM
Steel Phantom had a 160 foot height but a 225 foot maximum drop because of the terrain that it was built on. The drop was increased to 230 feet when it was modified into Phantom's Revenge. *** Edited 7/18/2006 6:23:17 PM UTC by Arthur Bahl***

Arthur Bahl

Tuesday, July 18, 2006 2:30 PM
rollergator's avatar But it (original Phantom) COULDN'T have been a hyper, it had inversions!

...and the re-done version doesn't have a 200' lift either! ;)

P.S. I really did ^that^ just to amuse/annoy Andy, PLEASE don't take it seriously... :)

Tuesday, July 18, 2006 3:03 PM
coasterqueenTRN's avatar Just from what I have seen on TV, the Crystal Beach Cyclone in it's heydey.

The nurse's station idea should of stuck around ;)


Tuesday, July 18, 2006 3:34 PM
First coaster that came to mind was CBC, but also in a way when Flying Turns opens, it could be ocnsidered "notorious" for being the only one of it's kind in a long time and being unique.
Tuesday, July 18, 2006 3:46 PM
I can only think of one... and that is the Crystal Beach Cyclone.

As for the the others that have been mentioned... SOB, Steel Phantom (and to a lesser extent Hercules), MAY currently be "notorious"... but only time will tell if they reach the same status of the Cyclone... both "Notorious" and "Legendary".

If people are still riding coasters 60 or 70 years from now, will those coasters still be talked about as the 1920's era CBCyclone is talked about today? *** Edited 7/18/2006 7:47:00 PM UTC by SLFAKE***

"Yes... well... VICTORY IS MINE!"
Tuesday, July 18, 2006 5:00 PM
I suppose "X" as it is the coaster that put the nail in the coffin of both Arrow Dynamics (as an Independant company) and Six Flags MM as a viable park.

"It's probably in my basement... let me go upstairs and check" -Escher
Tuesday, July 18, 2006 5:06 PM
Two more coasters that may be on their way to becoming notorious are Top Thrill Dragster and Kingda Ka. The problem here isn't rideability but just that they are so darn unreliable.

Arthur Bahl

Tuesday, July 18, 2006 5:42 PM
I don't know if any of you have been on the MineBuster at PCW but I think it's gonna break or derail. Raptor is pretty notorious. *** Edited 7/18/2006 9:43:14 PM UTC by CoasterDiscern***
Tuesday, July 18, 2006 5:46 PM
The Williams Grove Cyclone! I don't know how many times that thing popped into conversations about other coasters. I wouldn't it consider it notorious for anything record breaking, maybe for most pieces of track used to make a single 180 degree turn, crooked, sagging lifthill, duct taped lap bars, reprofiled hill near the end that I still can't figure out how 2, 3 bench PTC's could make it over, and the fact that it survived after someone backed a truck into it and knocked part of it over, and snow collapsed part of it one time too.

Other then that I don't see why it should have a notorious tag: The Notorious Williams Grove Cyclone, or at least an ACE landmark plaque!

Tuesday, July 18, 2006 6:03 PM
Down here in the South, the Ninja at SFoG is fairly notorious. No less than five people told me not to ride it upon hearing I was going to the park. And these are normal folks, not coasterfreaks.
Tuesday, July 18, 2006 6:57 PM

rollergator said:
But it (original Phantom) COULDN'T have been a hyper, it had inversions!

...and the re-done version doesn't have a 200' lift either!

You're so rude. The only time you ever post something is to mock somebody. Grow up and get a life. I hear they have them on sale at Wal-Mart this week for $9.94.

Oh... wait. Wrong person.

Tuesday, July 18, 2006 7:03 PM

That's the "modern day" equivalent to the Chrystal Beach Cyclone IMHO

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