No line jumping at Six Flags!

Thursday, January 19, 2006 8:59 PM
It says it on the web site so it MUST be true.

Seriously though...all these great changes the new Regime are implementing (such as the no smoking policy) will only work if the park has employees who A) care, and B) can stop it. Why would an employee put their life at risk to stop a line jumper or a person smoking?

I will wager a years salary that the "Six Flags" experience will be the same in 2006 as it was in 2005. Just more expensive.

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Thursday, January 19, 2006 10:49 PM
How exactly are they putting their life at risk if they tell someone to put out their cigarette? Line jumping usually happens in groups, so I can see that being a little nerve-racking, but still not life-threatening.

You know, I think Six Flags is pretty bad as much as the next guy, but seriously, all this "hurrrrrrrrr six flags r dum" that comes up whenever anyone mentions anything about the chain is getting old. We all know what's "typical" of SF, and everyone thinks it sucks.

That being said, $15 to park, the possibility of not being able to re-enter (you never know, it could change back again...) and the rising costs of extremely low-quality food will probably not do much to bring me close to going out of my way for a visit.

-Josh

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Thursday, January 19, 2006 11:41 PM
I've seen people get very emotional when asked by some to extinguish a cigarette when they shouldn't be smoking. High emotion on a hot day can lead to punches being thrown. Punches being thrown could put people in danger. Yes people have died in what has started as a small fight.
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Friday, January 20, 2006 12:19 AM
Line jumping is a huge problem at many parks. I worked at Cedar Point for two summers at Mantis and Millennium Force when I was on rotation in the lines it was always please extinguish your cigarett or please exit I and these people saw you jump line. I was not beyond calling security to escort the people out of the line if they did not listen.

If any park can enforce the no smoking in line and curtail line jumping my hands off to them, but it is an uphill battle...we have all seen or experienced it at some time or another.

I do hope that six flags can improve but we just have to wait until the season starts and people start posting trip reports. *** Edited 1/20/2006 5:20:13 AM UTC by scubasteve673042***

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Friday, January 20, 2006 12:39 AM
Life in danger? Seriously? For asking a person to put out a cigarette or for confronting line jumpers? I can see a fight ensuing, but chances are, if a fight would ensue, park security would arrive before anyone would get hurt too badly.
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Friday, January 20, 2006 12:42 AM

Raven-Phile said:
How exactly are they putting their life at risk if they tell someone to put out their cigarette? Line jumping usually happens in groups, so I can see that being a little nerve-racking, but still not life-threatening.

You haven't heard of the 11 murders at SFKK when random people were shot because they asked someone to put out their cigarette?

Palwine, do you really think smokers are that dangerous a group of people? They might have to make up a new word for people like you who prejudice against smokers: Jerk, Smokist, Canadian... Any other ideas?

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Friday, January 20, 2006 12:43 AM
All I can say if a fight starts because I confront a line jumper, and he hits me, I'm suing his ass to high heaven.

Grown ups can't hit other grown ups, and not pay big time. I HOPE they hit me. ;)

BTW, nice to see you around, Josh. Seriously. :) *** Edited 1/20/2006 5:44:11 AM UTC by nasai***

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Friday, January 20, 2006 12:48 AM
Is there a lawyer in the park? ;)

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Friday, January 20, 2006 1:06 AM
I know it's not possible, but I think all Six Flags employees should be fired. All of them. And then they can start the re-hiring process all over again, but this time maybe with some qualifications. Any qualification at all would do. Any.

"I think all you need is a face. This seems to be their big qualification. That's the law now: no blank heads are allowed to drive cabs." - Jerry Seinfeld on Cab Drivers.

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Friday, January 20, 2006 1:33 AM
What would help the employees out is if they were security cameras in the larger lines so there is tangible proof of line jumping. That way, the jumpers can't claim they are being discriminated against.
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Friday, January 20, 2006 4:29 AM
Then if that were the cause these former sport director dudes who are new in the SFI office would have a feild day with this idea. It would be like an instant replay, challenging the call of whether or not the guest was smoking. So it will be interesting to see when ride ops are carrying the red or yellow flags around in their pockets or a whistle around there neck.
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Friday, January 20, 2006 4:39 AM
That's a really good idea, DBJ.

I'm pretty tough looking (or so I've been told lol), so when I tell someone to not cut in front of me they almost always listen...except for thos 6 HUGE shirtless black guys at SFA around 2002. Wow, each one of them were as big as Two of me easily, and I didn't even look at them because i feared they would break me in half. lol.

Haven't the SF parks had a no line jumping rule all along? Don't a few people ignore it and cut line anyway? Why would it change just because some new, money hungry, greedy, underpaying, overcharging, customer hostile, corperate pigs took over the chain?

Ummm...You know that the off season on CB is in full swing when the "line jumping" thread pops up.

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Friday, January 20, 2006 5:07 AM
There we go again with Security cameras ect.

The best security is having enough security to do the job efficently. Having two security personel patrol a 100 acre park is not nearly enough security.

This whole thread started off as Sarcasm and people take it serious.

Sheesh.

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Friday, January 20, 2006 7:57 AM
Oh Word...

When you called me a biggot, you forgot to add "line jumpers" to the list of people I'm supposedly singling out.

I don't think we are talking about the 50 year old dad who while sitting at a park bench sparks up his Marlboro light 100 and is asked to put it out.

I think you know that I am referring to the 16 year old punk who is trying to impress his/her other friends by giving a park employee crap for smoking a cigarette or line jumping. They need to have respect...and if they want to line jump or...smoke a cigarette well by all means...who can tell them what they can or can't do?

Tell me, why would an employee want to mess with a pack of young punks with something to prove?

Ever been to SFA or SFGA? Tell me there aren't gangs in there. Tell me there isn't a ghetto atmosphere there. Why does six flags have metal detectors?

Grow up. Stop crying racism/classism and everything else when someone makes a statement.

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Friday, January 20, 2006 9:19 AM

palwine said:
Oh Word...Ever been to SFA or SFGA? Tell me there aren't gangs in there. Tell me there isn't a ghetto atmosphere there. Why does six flags have metal detectors? Grow up. Stop crying racism/classism and everything else when someone makes a statement.

Its obvious that you don't like being called racist, even though its obvious. the problem at most parks is the wimpy white people that get intimidated when people don't act white.... PERIOD

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Friday, January 20, 2006 9:37 AM
Huh. I thought I was anti line jumpers. An Anti line jumperite. Anti line jumperism. That got turned into being against Canada somehow.

Why do people always throw in the race/class/discrimination card these days?

But you are right. I am a jerk because I can't stand line jumpers and people blowing smoke in my face while in a queue.

I guess thats why we have Qbots. We can pay to play. We can pay to avoid line jumpers.

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Friday, January 20, 2006 9:53 AM
These aren't new rules. It sounds like SF is making a commitment to stop it from happening. I hope they do. They need some tough no non sense security. And honestly I don't think a ride op should confront them. I think they should contact security and 2 guards should come over and remove the culprit. And if they can't get there intime deny them boarding until security gets there. If the public would back the employee there would be no fear.

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Friday, January 20, 2006 10:13 AM
I would say SF needs to hire line attendants for their queues. It's not realistic to think that a ride op can operate the ride and keep an eye on the queue. With dedicated personnel walking the queue, they might deter some line jumping. When people do jump, they would also be able to address the issue or contact security immediately.
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Friday, January 20, 2006 1:27 PM
No Chuck, the subject and the title of the thread were sarcasm. The part where he says "Seriously though" is where the sarcasm goes away.

I know fights can get bad, but the only way someone's going to die is if one of them is a UFC cage fighter or something. Security/other park employees and patrons will break it up, plus the chances of the employee having a broom and a dustpan are good (maybe not at places like SFMM but you see my point).

I do think the prices they are tagging on stuff are ridiculous though. It's like taking a Kia or a Daewoo and slapping a price tag for an Acura on it. It just doesn't happen, though some people may fall for it.

Also, thanks Rob - It's nice to be around again. I can't wait to see you around this year, you coming out this way at all?

Edit: Palwine, you're the only one pulling the race card in here, so maybe you should take a look at that. It's kind of ridiculous.

-Josh


*** Edited 1/20/2006 6:30:30 PM UTC by Raven-Phile***

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Friday, January 20, 2006 1:35 PM
Line Jumping rules have been in place at Six Flags parks. It isn't new.

Enforcing them, that is a different thing, but I have seen people get caught and taken out of line for doing that.

The question is similar to the debate with illegal music and dvds.

What is the difference between saving a spot in line for someone that needs to go to the restroom or throw something away and line jumping?

(Just like is recording a movie on TV like stealing that movie?)

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