No, DeSantis isn't "winning" against Walt Disney World

It was the worst time to sell, that was my point. No one in 2005 saw it coming. So the assertion that house values and wages have to be connected doesn't track.

Touchdown:

They all say that multilevel home building need to increase.

That's what I said, it's a supply and demand issue. You were arguing that rich people were preventing construction. There are at least 20 new apartment complexes going up or recently built within 3 miles of my house. I've never seen anything like it.

I did not claim it was rich people, I believe I stated most NIMBYs are middle class. It’s still a huge issue everywhere but especially California.

A long article on CNN about the political environment of Florida possibly having an impact on conventions. They touch on both sides of the argument, as we have done in this thread.

CNN - florida-convention-business-cancellations

Was just reading this and this coasterbuzz thread came to mind. As laid out earlier, if people don't feel comfortable going to your state because of the created political climate, they'll go somewhere else.

Now DeSantis wants to kiss and make up...

https://www.independent.co....92989.html

He has a pretty poor track record in court. Perhaps his lawyers have advised him that the Constitution is not on his side.

This is one of many things that is hurting him on the campaign trail. He won't admit it, because like Trump his ego is too large to admit to mistakes, but it is a fact.

I don't think "You should give up because you are going to lose" is exactly the same as kissing and making up.

I thought Disney was looking to go to trial in Jan... right around when the Trump Circus will hit fever pitch.

So him more than likely losing to Disney on Free Speech in the middle of that won't be the best of looks, with his base.

Sharpel007:

So him more than likely losing to Disney on Free Speech in the middle of that won't be the best of looks, with his base.

I think you give his base too much credit for caring about any of the actual things.

And that's true for the far right in general. The evidence against Trump is pretty extensive. I don't see how he's found not-guilty on all counts, especially in the Georgia trial. That he asked a state official to find votes is not in dispute. We've all heard the call. It's against the law. The devout don't care.

Nothing surprises me any longer. The Venn diagram of people that believe that Trump is innocent and that the Maui wildfires were started by space lasers is a lot closer to a perfect circle than it should be.

Not just space lasers, but Jewish space lasers. Operated from Hunter Biden's laptop.

I honestly think it’s worse than that. A majority of those people who support him know what he did (how can they not, the whole country heard that tape) but because of a combination of believing his lies about the election being rigged and their blind desire to make sure their side wins they don’t think he did anything wrong. They simply don’t care.

Pfft. Third party candidates never win.

One of the two major-party nominees will be President. I'll be voting for (the one I think is) the least-bad one.

2016 and 2020 elections screamed third party candidate. If its Biden v Trump part duh, 2024 will as well. But third party candidates in 2016 and 2020 didn't (and extremely likely 2024 won't) come close to touching Perot's numbers in 1992 (back when third party candidates made less sense than the last three elections).

Republicans don't lose when democrats win elections. And democrats don't lose when republicans win elections. They both only lose when neither of them win elections.

At one point, I held out some hope that a viable third party was possible in my lifetime. That hope is gone at this point. Any interest the parties have in gerrymandering pales in comparison to their interests in preserving a two party system.

Brian Noble:

One of the two major-party nominees will be President. I'll be voting for (the one I think is) the least-bad one.

I didn't do that for the first time in my life in the last election. Voted for a third party, knowing full well they didn't have a snowball's chance in hell of being elected. To me, having a clear conscience was more important than casting a vote for the swill offered by the Rs and Ds.

Vater:

I didn't do that for the first time in my life in the last election. Voted for a third party, knowing full well they didn't have a snowball's chance in hell of being elected. To me, having a clear conscience was more important than casting a vote for the swill offered by the Rs and Ds.

Pretty much where am at right now. I’m a conservative, but can’t stand Trump.

Both parties are crap. Neither party cares about the common people anymore. All national politicians care about is pandering for votes and furthering their career.