Next wave of new coasters?

Incorrect.
Raptor was $11.5 million
Manits was $12 million
Millennium Force was $25 million
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Wicked Twister will be $9 million

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Thanks for the correction but, my point remains.

Coaster Bob said:
Almost 10 yearts earlier CP spent 12mill on Raptor and 14Mill in 96 for Mantis. So SFMM spending 14mill in 2001 for X really isn't that much cash.Especially when CP is spending 9 mil for an Impluse.I think Intamin is the worst value, Compared to Arrow and B&M.

I really don't think that Intamin coasters are a bad value. They are simply more expensive because of the technology used. I seriously doubt that LIM's are cheap.

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Intamin is the worst value? Do you mean the impulse or all Intamins? MF was pretty much a bargain at 25 million. It wasn't cheap, but it was definitely the lowest bid. It was all due to that sleek, elegant, sweet-ass box track too! :)

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I just don't see how CCI's aren't gonna become very commonplace given the ride they offer, and the pricetag that goes along with them. Gimme a break!?!? Where would Jazzland be without MegaZeph? That's the only thing keeping them afloat!
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it seems like there is a 90 degree drop thing with an X in the name of the coaster going on lately though... With Hypersonic XLC, X, Xcelerator... im sure that hasnt been thought about. Maybe i just think too hard :)

Teemu, interesting observation. HomeyG, well put. My personal favorite, heard many times on these boards is Ghostrider. I would fly to KBF for Ghostrider alone, as I have done similar with Silverwood. Nice park, but it is a destination with Tremors, and Timber Terror. No matter the myth that surrounds the Legend and Raven, these two CCIs are wonderful, but don't get the nods that other more on-the-beaten-path coasters get. Too bad. CCI should be the future, whether it is or not.
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I think B&M's flying coaster will become like there versions of the invert.
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SiDeWiNdErCSC said:
The next wave will be the flyers and the 4d's as everyone has said. But also, there will be an Attack Of The Giovnalas (sorry if i spelled that wrong) I am not going to say what kind, but they are coming.

The Only way we can be Attact By Giovanola is by there Tilt-Coasters because that is there Newest creation, And Most parks go for the New creations. So That would be good.

I agree that sfgav will get something really kool to go with that so called new wave of coasters.

B&M Boomerangs... they will make one that is so smooth and perfect that they sell one to every park without this kind of ride!!!
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1. S:RoS 2. Yankee Cannonball 3. Riverside Cyclone 4. Canobie Corkscrew 5. Thunderbolt 6. Galaxy 7. Mind Eraser 8. Dragon coaster 9. poison ivy's tangled

Gotta agree with the people saying 4d. I'm sure the B&M flyers will be cool, but that's the only position you've got. With a 4th dimension if the designer thinks the rider needs to stay in flying position for some extended period to time, well, hope those restraints are good cause there's no technical reason he/she can't.

The 90s have been all about rider placement. Inverts, standups, floorlesses, now flyers. All well and good, but they don't allow for inherently different moves. One could add 4d tech to anything. Imagine impulses that tumble while they climb the spikes. Headchoppers that really WOULD cut your head off if the seats didn't rotate. Possible. Flyers by contrast are hugely limited, and likely to be more of a novelty ride than something with staying power.

Now if they'd just make spinning mouse style 4d cars (5d?) I realize the train would be obscenely long, but still... muhahahahahahaha

The only way there is going to be an attack of giovanicantspellitright is if they go back into the coaster making business.

Comatose: that sounds Puketastic! lol :)

The thing that holds CCI back from becoming the "new wave" is that the GP wont let it. The people I know hate woodies and think they all suck like Mean Streak and just beat the crap out of you. Its hard for big parks to make money without a new ride having some sort of record or gimick. Sadly the most appealing woodie to the GP would have to be Son of Beast.

From the reviews I've heard of X, I sure hope one is built close soon to save me some money on airline tickets.

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id wanna see mega loopers come back. that would be awesome. I know there was talk about sfmm getting one, but i dont think they will...A good old 12 looper would be shweet
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Thats intresting what if the new wave of coasters will no depend on the layout and the terrain more than the coaster car itself like a ride that pushes you to the limits with new wilder inversons through a crazy over themed area with props to make u think ur gonna smash into a wall or u dive under a fallen tree into a tunnel .i think now they have the hotest coaster cars out so now the need the wilder coaster to go with it .and and their is a 10 looper out.

MikeMir87 said:
B&M Boomerangs... they will make one that is so smooth and perfect that they sell one to every park without this kind of ride!!!
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It doesn't matter who makes the Boomerang, it will still be a boomerang.
It would be a shame for any B&M to have a coaster with a layout which is that boring.... Thats one of the best parts of a B&M coaster, an interesting layout!

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WRT 4D's being able to sustain flying, I heard that all the times X is in the flying position there're some negative G's, implying that Arrow didn't want to have the riders lying into the restraints. I don't know how comfy they are, but they don't look like they'd be too good for, say, and outside loop in the flying position.
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Ravenguy98, you win. I do agree with that comment on Six Flags. I didn't take into account the fact that parks (even small ones) can have larger rides built for them based on the revenue of the bigger parks i.e. Magic Mountain. I still don't think that 4D will make that big an impression. Obviously, it is doing well, and is the talk of the community, but I just think it is 'trendy.' Just my opinion...:)
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Top installations of the new millennium(Just my opinion).
1) Intamin Impulse-There is no way that this ride can be beat. It's steel, tall, fast, small footprint and a HUGE hit with park goers. It's everything Boomerang was and more. It gives parks something to market, high thrills for low cost and little room needed. If I were a small park owner, I would be salivating over this ride.

2)CCI wood- CCI has to be the most adaptable coaster builders in the business. Just look at how they've squeezed coasters into the most unlikely of places. From what I understand, you can still buy a nice size one for 4-5 mill. Six Flags is steel crazy, but smaller parks will continue to look to CCI. Not a tough prediction there.

3)Arrow 4D- I honestly think the 4D is good enough to become the hypercoaster of the next decade. The concept hasn't been perfected by Arrow yet, there are capacity issues, and the rotation of the seats need to be better refined. That aside, it's the most revolutionary ride since Magnum-XL and Batman:The Ride. Parks looking to make a name may look to these, they are attention getters if nothing else. If only Arrow can get themselves on good enough footing to afford to manufacter more, then SFMM's pain should be the industry's gain.
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floorless coasters look like they could be the new wave of coasters....with both Mesusa's, Kraken, Batman Knight Flight, and Superman Krypton Coaster, thats enough to say that theres a growing abundance of floorless coasters to choose from.
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