New North Carolina Tubular Steel Law

Saturday, August 12, 2017 3:31 PM

Sorry for making 2 topics 2 days in a row, but this caught my eye.

http://www.nclabor.com/elevator/Memos/NDT_Memo.pdf

From what I can tell, this includes roller coasters, as they use tubular steel supports. Bad news for Carowinds and anyone visiting starting Monday.


Hey, let's ride (random Intamin coaster). What? It's broken down? I totally didn't expect that.

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Saturday, August 12, 2017 3:46 PM

I'm laughing at his assistant's name, Cherie Berry.

Last edited by CreditWh0re, Saturday, August 12, 2017 3:47 PM
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Saturday, August 12, 2017 4:06 PM
kpjb's avatar

It just says that they have to do it annually, not that they have to shut everything down on Monday until it's done. I imagine they'll just roll it in to routine off-season maintenance.


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Saturday, August 12, 2017 4:07 PM

I have no objection to ensuring everything is safe. The last thing I want is for anyone to be injured or killed in an environment that is supposed to be safe and fun. Too many times have people been injured because of insufficient maintenance.

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Saturday, August 12, 2017 4:11 PM
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I get the impression everyone is doing this anyway.

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Saturday, August 12, 2017 5:13 PM

They might be, but maybe they don't have to.
This is clearly a reaction to the Ohio incident, and not the last we'll see I'm sure.

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Saturday, August 12, 2017 6:31 PM
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And since there was an accident at the NC fair in recent years that led to jail time for the operator for negligently modifying the ride, this reaction to OH isn't surprising. I'm fine with it.


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Saturday, August 12, 2017 7:37 PM

Screamscape has posted a "warning" that the rides in the North Carolina side of the park will likely be closed starting Monday. But I also don't see the language that this all has to be done by Monday - just that new regulations begin Monday. And I'm sure Cedar Fair has likely been doing this stuff all along.

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Sunday, August 13, 2017 2:56 AM
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Exactly... the regulations begin Monday for rides' annual certification. If the rides are already certified for this year, then the regulation would not be effective until this coming off-season.


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Sunday, August 13, 2017 8:34 AM

Hold on, now. It was on Screamscape.

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Sunday, August 13, 2017 3:45 PM

And who cares? I mean this time of year the rides in South Carolina are every bit as nice as those in North Carolina.

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Sunday, August 13, 2017 7:42 PM

I promise I'm not trying to be the grammar police here... But since this is a legal document, precision of grammar is important.

If I read the first sentence literally, it seems to state that the "owners" of tubular steel require structural testing, not the actual steel. Of course I know what they mean, but if this document ever ended up in court, this might be an annoying technicality.

Last edited by buckeye brad, Sunday, August 13, 2017 7:45 PM

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Sunday, August 13, 2017 8:07 PM

But if the owners have tubes...

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Sunday, August 13, 2017 8:32 PM
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No biggie for Carowinds really, they will just choose to follow South Carolina practice instead. Or will they have to only NDT the rides on the North Carolina side? I'm so confused. :)

Last edited by TheMillenniumRider, Sunday, August 13, 2017 8:32 PM
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Sunday, August 13, 2017 8:51 PM

If I'm not mistaken, the split state thing has been an issue with this park since day one. Taxes, warehousing, health permits, inspections, etc. Unless something's changed, NC and SC sit on opposite sides of the fence and are bound to follow each state's rules.
Maybe our Tek knows more about it than I do.
The good news is that major themers like Carowinds and Cedar Fair have already found that it behooves them to follow the strictest safety procedures. They have an off season which allows for disassembly and inspection. This edict is aimed at everyone and will include smaller operations, traveling shows, and those that may not be doing their best in that department.

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Sunday, August 13, 2017 10:22 PM
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Yes, the "sides" of the park follow the laws of the state they're in.


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Monday, August 14, 2017 7:11 AM
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Rides are inspected and under the jurisdiction of the state the operating booth is in. So rides with a booth in NC are certified by NC, and rides with booths in SC are certified by SC.

Lance at Screamscaoe is acting like rides will have to close on the NC side, but the memo is very clear. Like kpjb said, the permenant rides are already certified for this year, and Carowinds may already do this testing if the Mfg. recommends it.

The wording is really to make sure that portable rides coming in to the state have to be inspected annually to be certified, starting Monday. This is obviously a response to the OH accident.


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Tuesday, August 15, 2017 1:34 PM
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CreditWh0re said:

I'm laughing at his assistant's name, Cherie Berry.

Ever ridden an elevator in North Carolina? That name is on every elevator inspection certificate in every hotel elevator in NC. I too found it mildly amusing and after I noticed, I started looking for in at every hotel I stayed at.

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